<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Seraphim..."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Seraphim... SoB players out there; i'd like some feedback from the rest of you. Have you used them with any success/been horribly mauled/underwhelmed by their performance against/for you etc...

I find the Seraphim to be a brilliantly effective unit. They can cover more of the board than any other unit available to me, be incredibly effective in assaults, pack a decent punch in the shooting phase and, act as a deterrent/bait for my opponent.

I'm aware that some think they are horribly over-costed (110 pts for a basic 5 girl squad) but i think they justify this with their flexibility. Especially when the best armies seem to be based on strength-in-depth, to me they are the ideal unit for a largely 1-D army.

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139656.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139656.page GMT Re:Seraphim... SoB sandwich]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139677.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139677.page GMT Seraphim... SI, i can use either Divine guidance, or Spirit of the Martyr reliably every turn. The old wording of HitandRun gives them a huge boost as they are incredibly good at choosing when to engage the enemy, i.e. if they are stuck in an attritional combat, i can flit away to an advantageous spot, or i can use my invul. saves to keep my opponents unit where i want it.

As i have said in a previous batrep. People tend to ignore the Seraphim in favour of wrecking exorcists/rhinos/immolators etc... Handily forgetting what a nightmare it is to have such a hard hitting and mobile unit loose ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139714.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139714.page GMT Re:Seraphim... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139763.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139763.page GMT Seraphim...
There are not a lot of armies that can shoot and assault well enough in the same turn to cause serious damage to a properly played Seraphim unit.

As far as Guard go; i welcome them using their troops to screen tanks from my Jump-troops. On average i will survive an assault without losing a model, then be able to H&R 10" from combat, move 12", and have my assault move to reach his tanks. A 28" threat range will have any opponent worried, not least the one that has used 2/3 of his points on tanks ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139787.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139787.page GMT Seraphim...
Thats not to say I dont find them useful. I think they are great at taking out specialized units like genestealers, witches, scouts, and any other low model high points cost unit.

Also if you give em inferno pistols and the Veteran an Evis they are great at popping transports and rear armor on tanks also. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139798.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139798.page GMT Seraphim... FRFSRF order, you'd have made a horrible error of judgement with your Seraphim. Same goes for the DA bladestorm scenario. Coupled with the rest of your army, you should never give your opponent the opportunity to use such a well practiced trick!

I prefer the Hand-flamer load out with an Evis. on the vet as it gives them ability to massacre infantry whilst still posing a threat to vehicles. Seraphim are best when they present a threat to everything they come across: It's hard to quantify, but if you speak to your opponent after a game, i'll bet that your highly manoeuverable/good at assault/good at shooting unit of seraphim caused a major headache. Not everything can be worked out via Mathhammer.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139818.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1139818.page GMT Seraphim...
SJ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1140294.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1140294.page GMT Seraphim... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1144777.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1144777.page GMT Re:Seraphim... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1144802.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1144802.page GMT Seraphim... CC. Also they look/ are cool.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1145288.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1145288.page GMT Seraphim... ) so I could run Seraphim as my fast attack. Nuff said, and I havent EVER seen them fight, but I know they will work wounders (twin link bolt pistols+twin linked flamers+ +1 in CC+ Faith points + jump pack= WIN!)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1145685.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1145685.page GMT Seraphim...
Happygrunt wrote:twin link bolt pistols+twin linked flamers+ +1 in CC+ Faith points + jump pack= WIN!


Take care:- yes the bolt pistols are twin lnked. But the other girls actually carry two hand flamers, which count as a normal flamer for shooting purposes.
-Unless you're pulling the old Vulkan with WH allies cheesecombo

Still, I highly rate seraphim in My SoB army. The jumppacks mean you can get exactly where you want for maximum flamer template coverage, Give'em a bit of the emprah's devine guidance and that's a lot of dead marines!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1146950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1146950.page GMT Seraphim...
Big squads can wreck infantry with their charge/hit and run and divine guidance. They can pack the tools to smack armour, proper application of faith means they have a use in any role, and their cost (while expensive for SOBs) isn't prohibitive compared to their utility.

I like them best for tarpitting and bounding up the field quickly to jump lootas/devs]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1146962.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1146962.page GMT Seraphim... SoB allies, as my SM got armored covered. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1146965.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1146965.page GMT Seraphim...
Sgt_Scruffy wrote:
I like them best for tarpitting and bounding up the field quickly to jump lootas/devs


IMHO, this is their best use. Faith points give them a massive advantage over whatever you throw them at meaning they can either quickly chew through a large infantry unit, or go all invulnerable against say, a squad of Termies, then leap away to have some fun in your opponents back line.

Remember though that you are only ever one failed AoF away from leaving them open to attack which, despite their Power Armour, can often be devastating thanks to their low toughness :(

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1150752.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1150752.page GMT Re:Seraphim... str 4 on the charge) I do still use them on especially in larger games. I prefer to run small squads 5 model with dual inferno rather than with flamers. I've also recently been seeing how they preformed as mid game deep strikers and have been pleased with the outcome provided my luck holds out. Anyone else been trying tactic?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1152406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1152406.page GMT Seraphim... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1152439.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267131/1152439.page GMT