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HQ-185
CCS
creed
flamers x3
krak grenades
chimera

elete-65
marbo

troop-185 x3
vets
melta x3
demo
chimera

troop-130 x3
vets
demo
flamer x2
heavy flamer

fast attack-130 x3 (Each separate not a squad)
vendeta

Heavy Support-75 (Each separate not a squad)
griffon

Three of the vets will be in the vendetas which will scout and bust any tanks while the flamer vets and griffons mop up infantry and the other vets take objectives. Its a lot of KPs but I think it has a good shot at tabling opponents any way. Thoughts? Suggestions?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1148461.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1148461.page GMT MEQs if you cannot get you melta guys close to them because you dont have those plasmas. Buy shotguns to vendetta squads to assault with melta bombs (!!!)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1148572.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1148572.page GMT . Appears flamer vets are in vendettas.

Some plasma wouldn't go a-miss and w0chtulka's suggestion of shotguns compliment the demo's

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Why Creed? You do realize that squads inside vehicles can not receive orders right?

Having all that been said, I like pretty much everything else you have going on.

Since it seems that you're keeping everything in vehicles as much as possible, why not lose the CCS and go for a primaris or Yarrick? Really, you could do two primaris psykers and throw them in your flamer vet squads for some extra assault goodness. On the other hand, if you know something I don't about Creed, I'd love to hear it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1149617.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1149617.page GMT
HQ_________________________________85
lord commissar
powerfist

elete______________________________65
marbo

troop______________________________185 x2
vets
melta x3
demo
chimera

troop______________________________210
vets
plasma gun x3
plasma pistol
demo
chimera

troop______________________________130 x2
vets
flamer x2
heavy flamer
demo
shotguns

troop______________________________145
vets
flamer x2
heavy flamer
powerfist
demo
shotguns

fast attack________________________130 x3
vendeta

Heavy Support______________________75 x3
griffon]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1149913.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1149913.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1149939.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1149939.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1150351.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1150351.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1151745.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1151745.page GMT
One problem with the plasma gun vets, they cannot assault after using the plasma guns - so you cannot use the demos. You want to use the demos means not firing the plasma guns. I would drop the demos and also the plasma pistol on the sgt - you don't want your sgt failing that gets hot save and you lose the higher leadership value - bad times :(

Really though, I think you have too many troops and not enough heavy support. You've got two short range meltas and two vendettas for anti tank. Pop the vendettas first due to the long range, then go for the meltas. You then have nothing which can threat armour. I also think a solo griffon is a easy pickings, and probably won't do a lot on its own, though because its not that tough I think it will most likely be ignored. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1152418.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1152418.page GMT
When going vets you need to take at least 5 squads at 1750 pts. Two melta veteran squads in vendettas + some lascannons and high str shots from tanks etc can do you anti tank well.

In fact there are three griffons and three vendettas. Too many IMO. Hellhound is great, demolishers are great. Consider taking them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1153486.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1153486.page GMT LC for a melted or plasma-up CCS]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1158364.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/267692/1158364.page GMT