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*The end part is the best - You'll hear why!

Also, support RATM's chosen charity SHELTER, which provides a means to giving a roof over people's heads.

Thanks Dakka - Get downloading, where-ever you are in the world!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1192168.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1192168.page GMT Help Rage Against the Machine get UK X-Mas Number 1!
First of all, the Christmas number one means feth all anyway. The "number 1" has meant nothing for about ten years.

Secondly, all this makes happen is the X -factor lot buy more copies.

Thirdly, and here is the killer, they are both signed to the SAME LABEL (Sony) So for every copy of RATM you buy, Cowell gets more cash!

The whole thing is entirely fething pointless is you ask me. All it means is that more records get sold and Mr Cowell and his suited chums make far more than they would have done if we had all just carried on with our business!

And how much are "shelter" gonna get from the whole debacle? feth all.

Save your £3.99 on a single(or however much it is nowadays) and give the whole £3.99 to shelter.

Cut out the middle man. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1192295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1192295.page GMT Help Rage Against the Machine get UK X-Mas Number 1!


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Who knows, perhaps this could make X-Mas the number 1 a more interesting subject matter.

It does suck that they're both signed under Sony, but that's not the point. The "campaign" was started by the fans, and the whole thing is not/was not originally about the money... For once!


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Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:40-65p for RATM, its only available as MP3 download.


True, that. I've downloaded it from Amazon. It was suprisingly fast and easy, too. The HMV website, on the other hand, totally crashed on me!

RATM supporters or not, I hereby tell you: Download the bleeding single! What's 40-70p anyway? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1192320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1192320.page GMT Help Rage Against the Machine get UK X-Mas Number 1!
I would of course prefer RATM over X factor if only because i actually listened to them for a time, but ... meh.. it all goes in the fat cats pockets as far as im concerned! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1192327.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1192327.page GMT Help Rage Against the Machine get UK X-Mas Number 1!
mattyrm wrote:Hah, each to their own Cosmic.

I would of course prefer RATM over X factor if only because i actually listened to them for a time, but ... meh.. it all goes in the fat cats pockets as far as im concerned!


Right again. It's a fact that most bands like RATM or KoRn start off being pure and awesome. Their first or second albums are always the best. I would have thought that is the same with most bands these days. I always judge a mainstream band's awesomeness by their early years...

Each to their own, I suppose?

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ShumaGorath wrote:I don't really care where Rage Against the Capital Gains Tax is on the list, they're too rich to be doing what they do.


As are most successful musicians, or "celebrities" for that matter...

Anyway, do most high-ranking politicians actually do their job for their country's sake? No they do so for their own personal/financial gain, of course!

Listen up people! It's never too late to make a contribution towards the final top Christmas chart result. Who cares whether it's all just a masterfully crafted plot of Simon Cowell - Does it not keep our simple, insignificant and little lives occupied/distracted from the world's fightening realities?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1195006.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1195006.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry


Alright people, there's still a few hours left to download "Killing in the Name" before the polls close...

Even if you dislike such musical tastes, it matters not.

The message is simple: We want no more highly manufactured and processed fething music!

Britain's music industry is a business dominated by the huge players. WE can help to break this eternal monopoly game!

...Or at least give it a good kick in the gonads.

DOWNLOAD KILLING IN THE NAME NOW!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1196876.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1196876.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1196995.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1196995.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry
Persephone 66 wrote:I could think of better bands to give this level of attention to, none of which are on a major label.


Good for you, but the "quality" of the music is not the point...

I personally like RATM (if you haven't already noticed), but it's the PRINCIPLE of rising against the UK's music industry giants.

Thanks for posting a comment

There's only 1.5 hours left to make a differnce...

DOWNLOAD NOW!
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Good luck with that. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1197524.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1197524.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry
Although I don't really care now.. Journey 'Don't Stop Believing' in the top ten. Yeah!!



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Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Roughly 30mins to go.

Although I don't really care now.. Journey 'Don't Stop Believing' in the top ten. Yeah!!


Thanks for stopping by, Morathi's Darkest Sin. I didn't really want to post yet another comment after my last, as it may have looked "desperate" shall we say!

You're right about there being 30 minutes until we know the end result. As you can tell, I was quite confused as to when this time would have been... Cheers!

Haven't YOU downloaded Killing in the Name yet?

Go forth and do so then!

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ShumaGorath wrote:Why do you care so much? Firstly Rage is a bunch of sellouts, their recent albums have been pretty poor, and holiday sales charts are meaningless pop popularity contests. Are you somehow financially invested in this?


*Sighs*

If you want the truth, I first heard RATM at the beginning of this year, and liked their music very much.

So when I discovered that there was a campaign to get them to x-mas number 1, I was quite excited - People were actually talking about music that I listened to... Even my sister was interested!

That's all, to be fair. That, and my very specific musical tastes, have made me care about this. I don't enjoy the X-factor (although the auditions are fun to stop and watch for a few minutes), and nor do I care about much media issues.

Good day to you too, sir.



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Cosmic wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:Why do you care so much? Firstly Rage is a bunch of sellouts, their recent albums have been pretty poor, and holiday sales charts are meaningless pop popularity contests. Are you somehow financially invested in this?


*Sighs*

If you want the truth, I first heard RATM at the beginning of this year, and liked their music very much.

So when I discovered that there was a campaign to get them to x-mas number 1, I was quite excited - People were actually talking about music that I listened to... Even my sister was interested!

That's all, to be fair. That, and my very specific musical tastes, have made me care about this. I don't enjoy the X-factor (although the auditions are fun to stop and watch for a few minutes), and nor do I care about much media issues.

Good day to you too, sir.





See? You should have just explained that from the beginning. That's perfectly reasonable.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198351.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198351.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry
I chuckled, but thats about it, and nope Cosmic I didn't buy the single, I haven't brought a single in years.

More fun than having 'The Climb' at number one, plus as I do like that Rage song, its a bonus.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198390.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198408.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198408.page GMT Re:Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry
Had some grand times back in the day jumping around like a nutter to that song ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198415.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198415.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry
It's no secret that I'm very happy about the final result...

Thanks to everyone who's left a message on this thread or - even better - actually bought the single!

What to say?

Merry RAGEmas Dakka!



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Thats 950,000 songs for Sony music, and a few hundred grand onto Cowells shares.

I bet he is fething gutted. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198438.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198438.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry
Dick.

He won't get much cash for it anyway. It's just the symbolism.

sA]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198472.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198472.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!


I couldn't resist to include this video. I'm not too sure whether or not that it is the original version, but anyway, enjoy!

EDIT: Changed to the cencored version. There's a link for the whole (best) performance on the video...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198541.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198541.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198704.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198704.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY! As mattyrm pointed out Sony and Cowell still profit,how is this toppleing the corporate music behemoth???]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198852.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198852.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
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Not that I listen to the radio, other than Planet Rock whilst making a sandwich...

:S]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198981.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1198981.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1199155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1199155.page GMT Re:Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY! interview with McElderry about the incident. He is quite an idiot it would seem, and funny at the same time.

Apparently his song is a cover of a Miley Cirus song. The industry must be in real if they have to cover songs this recent and by musicians that make the Monkees look like Led Zepplin, both in integrity and musical talent.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1199230.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1199230.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
It's nice to see someone other than a manufactured pop star win for the first time in ages.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201275.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201275.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
Thorgut wrote:I'm glad RaTM won.

It's nice to see someone other than a manufactured pop star win for the first time in ages.


When did that happen? I thought Rage won.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201310.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
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Does this mean I've beaten them?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201422.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201422.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
ShumaGorath wrote:
Thorgut wrote:I'm glad RaTM won.

It's nice to see someone other than a manufactured pop star win for the first time in ages.


When did that happen? I thought Rage won.

Rage is pop music now? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201622.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201622.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
Thorgut wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
Thorgut wrote:I'm glad RaTM won.

It's nice to see someone other than a manufactured pop star win for the first time in ages.


When did that happen? I thought Rage won.

Rage is pop music now?


Well didn't they just win the christmas song sales contest?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201626.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1201626.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
And here's the really good bit from Shelter UK's website:
"After a huge grassroots social networking campaign on Facebook and Twitter, Rage Against the Machine has reached number one for Christmas - raising over £80,000 for Shelter in the process. Congratulations and a massive thank you to everyone involved!
Rage Against the Machine have now said they will also donate a large portion of their royalties from the track to Shelter. Many, many thanks to them, and to all who have donated via the campaign. "
Nuff said, homeless people will be provided for this Christmas due to this record's sales and those who bought it.

Well done.

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Anyway...

This just in - Simon Cowell has killed himself after ONLY selling around half a million copies of a debut single by a completely unknown artist that cost a relative pittance in terms of artist development, the costs of which were recouped before the single hit the shelves. Popular mainstream musical entertainment show X-Factor, which regularly pulls in viewing figures of around 10 million, has been cancelled with immediate effect.

Oh hang on....none of that happened.

Well done RATM fans, keep smashing the system with consumerism - it's the last thing the fat-cats will expect.
Pop has always been 'manufactured' - anyone who thinks otherwise has too little knowledge of musical history to comment, sorry. See Motown for a classic example.

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Albatross wrote:@MGS - True, but £80,000 raised from 500,000 in sales? That's not a lot considering half a million people bought it.



Your cynical gland is in overdrive...

Besides, if the download costs 40pence and 500,000 were sold, that means £200,000...of which £80,000 is 40% of the total profit, not too shabby.

If RATM also are to donate a sizable amount of their royalties from the track, then even better. Whilst £80,000 isn't going to end homelessness in the UK, it will certainly help some folks who need it during this cold and inclement time.

If you wish to continue looking for the turd in this trifle, carry on mate, I'm fairly pleased myself and it's cheered up my day. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202368.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202368.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
The X-factor single wouldnt have sold half as many as it did if it wasnt in a contest with RATM.

The only ones who are laughing their asses off here are Sony music. Whilst all the sweaty little goths who think they are being all "anti establishment" empty their pockets into record executives arse pockets.

It is literally that simple. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202373.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202373.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202377.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202393.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202393.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202562.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202562.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
mattyrm wrote:
The X-factor single wouldnt have sold half as many as it did if it wasnt in a contest with RATM.


Actually it's sold less, last year Alexandra Burke sold 596'000 copies of her track.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202602.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202602.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
Albatross wrote:This just in - Simon Cowell has killed himself after ONLY selling around half a million copies of a debut single by a completely unknown artist that cost a relative pittance in terms of artist development, the costs of which were recouped before the single hit the shelves. Popular mainstream musical entertainment show X-Factor, which regularly pulls in viewing figures of around 10 million, has been cancelled with immediate effect.

How was buying RaTM's song supposed to lower sales of another single?

It was to break X Factor's streak and deny Simon Cowell another Christmas no. 1, and it worked.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202718.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202718.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/270159/1202794.page GMT Rage Against the Plastic Music Industry - VICTORY!
Can we don ironically grotesque sweaters while sipping our fashionably 'cheap' beer while desperately trying to assuage feelings of angst and white guilt?

Thanks. No.



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