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				<description><![CDATA[ I know they are nice and friendly compared to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GTs</span> but i was planning on entering the upcoming doubles with my uncle but i found out that none of my armies could side with his. Now i understand that there is an element of fluff stopping this, obviously orks aren't going to side with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>, but i looked at the table and saw that the only sode that Necrons can side with is Necrons. And most are untrusted allies meaning they get a -1 to thier <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span>.<br /> <br /> I thought that doubles tournies were a get-together-to-game event, where you could just bring along ur best mate or family member and just play. But it seems that there are quite a lot of restrictions. <br /> <br /> Anyone else think this or am i being too casual??]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:14:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Eldar Own wrote:</cite><br /> Anyone else think this or am i being too casual??</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Nope. I'm surprized they have that harsh a restriction. We have two doubles tourneys scheduled for my shop, and I don't think we intend to have any restrictions. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:59:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ well by fluff, necrons would never ally with anything else...<br /> kinda makes sense, but if they make some restrictions, they have to do em all...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:14:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I can understand where the restrictions on army choices comes from but I think doubles tournaments are all about getting together with a mate, playing some warhammer and just having a good time. Leave the seriousness for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GTs</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:33:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There is nothing wrong with restrictions. If people want to bring <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> and Orks they are probably power gamers.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:58:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Or maybe, a pair of friends who just happen to have an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> army and an Ork army. <br /> <br /> One of the few tournaments I've played in was a charity doubles tournament, and it was very laid back, and very much a "get together with good people and play" event, rather than anything serious.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:38:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Any tournament that you pay to enter and has prize support is serious <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:45:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I approve of fluff restrictions, however I feel they should emphasise the more casual nature of doubles tournaments. Hence I feel a compensation is needed, such as minor fluff restrictions or penalty for non-fluffy forces (such as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> w/ Tyranids).<br /> <br /> However the main issue i see with removing the restrictions would be that it opens up more opportunity for power-gamers, as they could combine two forces that compliment each other...<br /> <br /> Personally Im fine with it as it stands however. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:14:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I know that things like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>/Orks would be wired but its easy to play around the fluff restrictions.<br /> <br /> My uncle and I often play as a team with eldar/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span>. These guys arent exactly chums but the eldar, as fickle as they are, would probably side with them if the thing that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> are assaulting has some sort of significance to them. The same could go for necrons.<br /> <br /> My uncles often play against my eldar as a team. Thier armies are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> and chaos, we're not really bothered but we like to say that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> are traitors. Problem solved.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:56:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eldar Own]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ By fluff, Necrons would ally with whoever happened to support the Deceiver's current agenda. The Eye of Terror campaign I believe it was had a scenario where Necrons came to the aid of Imperial forces that were out numbered 2 to 1 by Chaos.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:53:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Orks and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> is an easy one. <br /> <br /> It's really 'BloodAxes' and 'Human mercenaries and Advisors'. That's from the old orky books of 2 decades ago. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:50:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> guidelines for doubles tournies ae unfairly biased towards he good armies.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:06:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The purpose of doubles armies is to allow true combined Imperial armies.  Those that think its to allow playing with friends are naive.  Without repressive restrictions that heavily favor the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(533);'>IoM</span>, power gaming scumbags may get a chance to flourish and, hell, they might even want basic human rights.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:38:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Doubles tournaments are dump.<br /> The doubles should at least play the same kind of armies. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:27:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The thing is if you want to do best in the tournament you need the same army. Now, if its for battling with friends, which <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> say it is, then this is a bit daft. <br /> <br /> Most groups of gaming mates i know do not have the same armies so that they can play games against each other and create better scenarios etc. I have, and sure you have, seen many threads on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(231);'>DD</span> saying "what army shall i collect" they then go on tho say "i dont want it to be <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> or orks because my friends have them".]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:11:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eldar Own]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'll be able to answer this in about three weeks, first time at lenton, and first ever Tournie (well apart from that D&D one back in the mid 90's.)<br /> <br /> Due to me shelving my Chaos, its ended up me and my mate taking Orks and Orks, so who knows how they'll run or what we'll face. <br /> <br /> But when you look at the force, it does look like one almost normal 1500pt Ork army. Just broken down between the two Klans we have.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Morathi's Darkest Sin]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:</cite>I'll be able to answer this in about three weeks, first time at lenton, and first ever Tournie (well apart from that D&D one back in the mid 90's.)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Its not the actual gaming we're on about here. I think that the army restrictions are too restrictive for a get-toghether-and-play tournament. There's a high chance that you and your mate wont be able to play, or play at a disadvantage, becasue your armies cant play together.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:56:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eldar Own]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah I get that, what I am referring to is I'll be able to literally see by what armies are there.<br /> <br /> If everyone has gone for the same army, or its mostly Guard/Marine (which is what I'm expecting) and hardly any 'other' <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> armies are being represented then it will have been a poor call.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>Tbh</span> had I not shelved my Chaos, the -1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span> wouldn't have put me off combining with my mate, but I could see many folks seeing it as a game breaker and going for the easy option.<br /> <br /> Hence why I expect to see lots of Marine/Guard combos.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Morathi's Darkest Sin]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I too am going to the said torney in Lenton next month.  I think the restrictions work well, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>TBH</span> both me and my team mate are building new armys to take as its only 750pts each its not that hard to build a new army just for this event and he even has xmas to get the last few items that he needs.<br /> <br /> Armies wise we are taking a Demiurg (Tau) and Guard mix. Hopefully they play well but back on topic this event sold out in record time so the restritions didn't put people off and its a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> run event at Warhammer world but it all depends on the people running the events how they want to run them. I'm shore if its just a local club event it will be less restrictive but this event people have had around 4 months to plan there armies for it.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ led571]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, if someone wants to put restrictions on a tourney, it's their tourney.<br /> <br /> As pretty much everyone has said though, fluff restrictions don't seem to be that common in doubles tourneys.<br /> <br /> As a whole, I've found that doubles tournaments are a blast.  The ones with serious prize support tend to attract more serious players just like normal, but that's to be expected.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ MrGiggles]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well if my guild shirt arrives in time, I'll be easy to spot as I'll have a WoW 'flea Circus' top on honouring my Main. Hehe.<br /> <br /> Regardless, don't get me wrong, I think its going to be grand fun either way, I just hope to see more armies than Imperium mixes. <br /> I'd love to face Necrons for example, or Elder and Dark Elder, and Orks, always eager to face Orks for a big ole Waaagh match. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Morathi's Darkest Sin]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Last few doubles tourneys I've participated in there were some shenanigns taking place.<br /> (1.5 years ago...)<br /> I arrived with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>, was paired with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> player.  Yes - it worked out quite nicely for the both of us.  I formed a gunline, he put Drop Pods and Blood Claws down...<br /> <br /> For one game, we played combined <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(388);'>SMs</span>, no big deal.<br /> <br /> Another - a pair of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> players.<br /> <br /> Third game was combined <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(388);'>SMs</span> and tyranids.<br /> We were Rhino Rushed by Tyranid Warriors, gaunts, and genestealers....<br /> <br /> I've seen the same technique used in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span> battles.  I find it irritating,  and 'unfluffy', but I get over it and have fun.<br /> <br /> Most I've won (winning that tourney) was a blister pack or small box.<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:</cite> I just hope to see more armies than Imperium mixes. <br /> I'd love to face Necrons for example, or Elder and Dark Elder, and Orks, always eager to face Orks for a big ole Waaagh match. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not forgetting my own personal team favourite - Tau and Eldar.<br /> <br /> They are a good match for one another.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Running a Doubles Tourney in March here, and I'm wondering what kind of pairings people will cone up with.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Aduro]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The thing is the only armies that can combine out of my uncles and I are orks and Chaos and they have a -1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> penalty. Also my 'chaos' uncle is getting married the saturday after, so i think he'll be to busy orginizing etc. to play <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0">.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Eldar Own]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ We're having a doubles tourney next year. No restrictions, but there's a prize for theme, and fluff counts...]]></description>
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