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				<description><![CDATA[ Got this tournement coming up in a couple months and I need to go from Grey minis to award winning painted Dark Angels and I need your help to get there.  I haven't played <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> really and we have a strange tourney structure.  Basicly it is a Team Tournament where each player brings 1000 pts and partner up with another 1000 pt army.  You have to have an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> and a Troop choice after that you can have two more troops, an Elite, a Fast and a Heavy.  there are floaters for the Elite, Fast and Heavy section that you squabble over which army gets it.  So basicly in the end you have one normal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> that you have divided up amongst two armies.  Does that make sense?<br />   With that having been said we are going with a DeathWing/RavenWing combined list and this is what it looks like:<br /> <br /> +++DeathWing+++<br /> <br /> 130    Belial<br /> <br /> 235    Terminator Squad with Cyclone Missle Launcher (+20) and Storm Bolters<br /> 245    Terminator Squad with Assault Cannon (+30) and Lighting Claws<br /> 275    Terminator Squad with Assault Cannon (+30), Apothicary (+30) and Storm Bolters<br /> <br /> <br /> Total:<br /> 885<br /> <br /> <br /> +++RavenWing+++<br /> <br /> 205    Sammael with Skimmer<br /> <br /> 420    RavenWing Attack Squadron with 2 Melta Guns (+20) A Sergeant with Power Fist (+25) and Melta bombs (+5)<br />        3 extra bikes (+100) Attack Bike with Multi Melta (+50) and Land Speeder with Assault Cannon and Heavy Bolter (+100)<br /> 215    RavenWing Attack Squadron with 2 Plasma Guns (+30) a Sergeant with Power Weapon (+15)<br />        Attack Bike with Multi Melta (+50)<br /> 130    Vindicator with Dozer Blade (+5)<br /> <br /> Total:<br /> 1000<br /> <br /> As you can see I have 115 points left over from the DeathWing list.  I am debating cutting some fat and sticking a Dread in there or perhaps another Vindicator.  What are your thoughts?  Is it balanced?  Am I going to get hosed?  Do I have too much or too little troop killy vs. tank busty?  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:07:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks good to me.<br /> I'd consider a Dread with assault cannon and heavy flamer. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:25:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 2000 pts and only 28 figures.<br /> <br /> Add Dread on Deathwing side]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:58:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Old Man Ultramarine]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It is actually 30 as it stands, but I get your point and that is something that is troubling.  With my old Tyranid army I tried to use the 3:1 ratio, so this is painful.  But the idea is to deep strike the termies on the objectives and rush the bikes in last second so where we lose it in numbers we pick it up in shenanigans.  Is this too naive?  Also I was thinking about throwing a Whirlwind in there as well as a Chap banner to make up that 115pts.  Think a Dread is a better choice?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:52:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MachineSlave]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A Dread is a better choice.<br /> It could hold up a small Gaunt brood forever if necessary. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:56:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In my humble opinion, one of the Deathwing squads could do to have a Heavy Flamer. It's invaluable against hordes, and giving volume of fire.<br /> <br /> Failing that, toss it on a Dread. I myself find direct shooting to be a bit more unreliable than good old templates.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:16:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ WGXH]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Okay, so time and again I am hearing "Dread," so be it Dread it is.  Then I am also hearing Heavy flamer.  Now I need 10pts to get a vanilla dread.  Should I drop an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> or a Cyclone to get it?  I can turn either weapon to get a Heavy Flamer on the given Term Squad and potentially the Dread, and if I drop an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> I can get a Heavy Flamer on the dread with 10pts to spare or just go with extra armor for it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:23:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MachineSlave]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would put the Cyclone on the lightning claws and put in a banner +1 attack for the squad.  Also drop the assault cannons for heavy flamers.  Also drop the Apothicary for the termies and put him in the bikes to ignore a plasma get hot wound.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:33:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>215 RavenWing Attack Squadron with 2 Plasma Guns (+30) a Sergeant with Power Weapon (+15) </div></blockquote><br /> I'd drop the power weapon and give him melta bombs.<br /> This will free 10 pts. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:40:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yeah, that banner is pretty groovy.  The thing with this is each army list can not go over 1000pts.  So if I want an Apothicary in the RavenWing I need to drop something.  Should I drop the power weapon to get an Apothicary?  then with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> list i could drop the Apoth, grab the banner freeing 5 more pts, drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>ACs</span> for H. Flamers freeing 50 more pts (for a total of 170), buy a dread w/ 45 pts left over.  That could make it venerable w/ a plasma cannon and H. flamer!  Otherwise i could buy the dread w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> and H. Flamer and have 40pts to spend... perhaps buying that apothicary back and a couple chain fists.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:14:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MachineSlave]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would take the venerable w/ a plasma cannon and H. flamer!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:37:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wilsmire]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I pulled my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> out this past weekend.<br /> <br /> I spamed the Apothecary. It was sickening what you can do with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>RAW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> Narthacium. Band Aids were flying in all directions. Failed cover saves with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>? Here's a Band Aid. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> You are running Sammael and Belial. Play the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Apothecary, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Apothecary, and a Command squad with an Apothecary. Keep them reasonably close and prevent wounds and failed Armor cover.<br /> <br /> Just a thought.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:13:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Old Man Ultramarine]]></author>
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