http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net HQ: Chaos sorcerer, termie armor, winds of chaos - 145

Troops:

10 CSM, aspiring champion W/ plasma pistol and power sword, plasma gun and Icon of chaos glory - 215

10 CSM, aspiring champion W/ plasma pistol and power sword, plasma gun and heavy bolter - 215

9 Khorne Berzerkers, skull champion W/ plasma pistol and power fist - 244

Rhino for berzerkers, Dozer blade - 40

Fast Attack:

10 Raptors, aspiring champion, power weapon, plasma pistol - 245

5 raptors, Plasma Gun x2 - 130

5 raptors, Plasma Gun x2 - 130

'Eavy Support:

Vindicator, havoc launcher - 140

TOTAL = 1499, my math may be slightly off though...

Tactics: CSM squads and vindicator run/drive to the nearest cover, Khorne 'zerkers (in Rhino) attack the closest threat. The two raptor squads with the plasma guns deepstrikes behind enemy tanks, while the larger raptor squad deepstrikes behind the enemy infantry squad with the heaviest weapons and assaults them, If I am lucky this will leave the ememy stuck between rock (CSMs and vindicator) and a hard place (Raptors).

So, Whacha people think?




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What is your plan for Sorcerer HQ? It doesnt really seem to have a good place in this army, i would suggest running a daemon prince with wings and mark of tzeentch instead. Generally speaking Daemon Princes are better than Chaos Sorcerers in all aspects. Also, a daemon prince here would be able to roam around doing whatever it likes.

What do you plan to do with regular Chaos Marines? Plasma pistol and power sword isnt the best combo from experience. Power fist generally is better as it can kill tough things easily. Power Swords dont allow armor but dont have the same wounding potential as power fists do.

One last thing i like to gripe about is plasma pistols on aspiring champions are a big risk. Your Skull Champion is a 71 point model with 1 wound. If you roll badly, which does happen, he could die without ever seeing close combat. This is true with all aspiring champions, i dont like them to die before they get into combat, as chaos is always better in close combat.

As for raptors, i cant say i have used them much, but i do know, 12 inch movement is always nice so rock on! Perhaps give the big squad an Icon to make them really nasty?

I think you have a good base, a few adjustments and this could be a very fun and effective list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/272213/1224982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/272213/1224982.page GMT Raptors are not worth their cost really they are not even that good in combat, I recommend you lose some of the raptors and expensive champions and replace them with more bodies, maybe put a few obliterators in. Your sorceror is ok just give him a better power like lash of submission. You can group and enemy squad and blow them all up with the vindicator or obliterators with plasma cannons. Icon of chaos glory is pretty useless IMO give that squad another weapon like a melta gun or flamer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/272213/1225111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/272213/1225111.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/272213/1225148.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/272213/1225148.page GMT It still keeps the original army you have with only some minor changes.

HQ: Chaos sorcerer, Warptime, jump pack - 145
(Goes with the big raptor unit, more CC orientated)
Greater daemon - 100
(Whoever said a greater daemon isnt fun? )
Troops:

10 CSM, aspiring champion W/ power sword, plasma gun*2 and Icon of chaos glory - 220
(Exanged plasma pistol for a second plasma gung, greater range)
10 CSM, aspiring champion W/ power sword, plasma gun and Autocannon - 200
(Removed plasma pistol, exanged heavy bolter for autocannon, can be used to pop light armor togheter with the plasma)
9 Khorne Berzerkers, skull champion W/ power fist - 229
(Removed plasma pistol)
Rhino for berzerkers, Dozer blade - 40

Fast Attack:

8 Raptors, aspiring champion, Melta*2 - 195
(Champion is primary delivery for Daemon, 2 meltas for aditonal tank hunting if needed)
5 raptors, Melta*2 - 120
(Ramoved plasma gun and exanged them for 2 meltas. Plasma gun is not good on jump units. Either you sacrifice your mobility for range/rapid fire or you sacrifice the weapons range by moving)
5 raptors, flamer*2 - 110
(Removed Plamsa gun for 2 flamers, might be better to exange weapons with the larger groups meltas, unshure.)
'Eavy Support:

Vindicator - 125
(Removed havoc launceher to save points. But be aware that this will be a heavy weapons bullet/ray/some strange organism magnet )

This comes to 1484points so you have 14 points do do what ever you like with.

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