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6 X 10 Gene Stealers

Trygon

So the basic Idea is 60 infiltrators that have 6 inch move D6 fleet and 6 inch assault all with move through cover 6 initiative and rending to take down tanks and hold up troops from a 1st turn assault and then the 2 tyrants for heavy hitting and the trygon for some good old deep strike nastiness. So what do you guys think?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1264088.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1264088.page GMT New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points AT ME. SHOOT ME. KILL ME ON THE TURN I ARRIVE!" Which isn't that hard to do if you're facing Tau or any list with multiple AP3 (or better) weapons. You're better off footslogging the Trygon across the table.

A second note on the Genestealers, boltguns ignore their armour saves now - so even if you do arrive on either flank, if anyone is too far away to fleet and assault, then that brood is going to get shot to hell. And even if you do get them into combat, there's a very real possibility that once they win the assault, then consolidate... they will get shot to hell.

Tyranid Primes are great in packs of warriors. I usually run two joined to two six-strong units of warriors with boneswords and adrenal glands. Power weapons that cause instant death is just gravy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1264605.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1264605.page GMT New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points
To cover their advance - I would take 2 Tyrannofexes, one Venomthrope and a stripped down Tryranid Prime. These four models all hangout near each other. Attach the prime to one of the fexes, he can take wounds. Run this unit the first turn if you can. Add a Broodlord to one of the genestealer units.

Hide the Venomthrope - he'll give your Fexes cover saves for a turn. You'll have 2 fewer T6 wounds with list list BUT, they have 2+/5+ saves and 3 T5 ablative wounds from the Prime and they will be causing havoc from 48 inches away.

Smash the enemy armor unit that can harm the stealers the most with cannon fire.

An assault force NEEDS some form of covering fire.

Deploy the fexes centrally and run them, deploy the stealers via infiltration all on one flank and push left or right. Use the Broodlord unit to draw fire. The goal is to cut off lines of fire. This should limit the incoming fire, especially if there is a parking lot of enemy vehicles to contend with.

The fexes may even get to CC/close fire support range to mop up infantry units they spilled out from transports in later turns.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1264776.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1264776.page GMT New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1265880.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1265880.page GMT New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points
Lightdrow wrote:SDasher I never said anything about my stealers coming in via reserves I was like kaiservonhugal said going to infiltrate them all.


Ahaha, oh my, that's what you get for posting in the early hours of the morning, eh?

My previous points again, but a little more positive as you might get some lucky Fleet rolls and get into Assault Turn 1, seeing as, if you've put things exactly 18" away, they should get in there nice and early.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1265962.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1265962.page GMT New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1266357.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1266357.page GMT New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1267786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1267786.page GMT New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points
You have nothinjg that will really worry armour 14 though except 1 Trygon.

I feel those 200 points could be better spent, Trygon are like DP dreads you need 2 or you're probably better off with none. But even more so with the Trygons than Dreads.

Flyrants are massively overpriced and I'd never take 2 Tyrants, just too expensive even at 2,000+ points let alone 1,500 especially as you have none of their abilities.

Get some Zoanthropes in spores to help against Tanks, I'd probably chuck some Broodlord in there too (personal choice). With the Trygons go 2 or none.

Finally and I can't stress this enough TOXIN SACS on the stealers!!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1268013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1268013.page GMT Re:New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1269563.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1269563.page GMT Re:New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points
Lightdrow wrote:not sure what book you are looking at sir but toxin sacs give poisoned 4+ so no rerolling for them.


Read the second half of the paragraph on poisoned weapons on page 42 of the BGB. Poisoned weapons give you rerolls if your S is equal or higher than your opponents T.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1269581.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/274765/1269581.page GMT Re:New Tyranid codex Gene stealer assault army. 1500 points
You're going to rely on rending to take down tanks. Rending.

1. You are %*#$ed to flamers and anti-infantry of all kind.

2. See above.

3. Your army won't touch most mechanized armies in a practical setting.

4. Have you accounted on terrain? No you havn't. Have you accounted on Reserve armies, no. Have you accounted for anything but they set up in a gunline and I get my perfect 18.000000 blah blah blah you are not 18" away. No.

#4 is why this army won't win verse decently built/decently played armies. Decently placed / built Space Wolves and IG would do unspeakable things to this army. Hell, Blood Angels will probably too! Frankly most armies will demolish this as long as they are decently built / played (I say this because this army would freak a 12 year old with gunline marines, but not the guy who has played for a year and is fully meched)

///done with harsh criticism///

Well :/ you have nothing to reliable touch hordes except in CC, and it's still not that reliable. You have no long range firepower. You have no real reliable way to kill tanks (think fast meltaguns or lascannons). You can't kill tanks at range. You have no screen units for your main force except for Tervigon luck. You have nothing to shut down psychic powers.

Fix maybe 1/2, maybe more towards 2/3 of those problems and you'll be looking at maybe a decent list. Get some Ymgarls and some Zoanthrops or something, maybe some Hive Guard. Deathleaper, Harpies, then maybe you'll be looking at a decent list.

Good luck....

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