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HQ
Warboss-60
+Warbike-40
+Bosspole-5
+cyborg body-5
+Power klaw-25 135
+Attack squig-15


Elite
9 Nob bikers- 405
+cyborg bodies-45 645
+4 Power klaws-125
+WAAGH! Banner-15
+Painboy on bike-55
+5 big choppas-25

Troops
20 ork boys-120
+Nob-10
+Bosspole-5
+power klaw-25 160

20 ork boys-120
+Nob-10
+Bosspole-5
+power klaw-25 160

Fast attack
3 Deff koptas-105
+3 twin linked rokkit launchas-30 135

Heavy support
BattleWagon-90
+Red paint job-5
+Deff rolla-20
+Boarding planks-5
+Big shoota-5 125

BattleWagon-90
+Red paint job-5
+Deff rolla-20
+Boarding planks-5
+ big shoota-5 125


1500




]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1288485.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1288485.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :) FNP. Second, your battlewagons need at least one big shoota so that a weapon destroyed result doesnt ruin your day. Third, nobs in the boyz squads should have power klaws.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1288498.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1288498.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :) lol thanks heaps]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1288503.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1288503.page GMT Re:1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :) CC.
All boyz squads unquestionably need a pk.
Nobs need a painboy, and probably need individual wargear.
...nobs need to drop armor, as does the boss. They're on bikes which give 4+.
Wrecking balls and armor plates should probably be dropped, they're junk. Wagons need a big shoota each.

And you should probably remove the individual wargear point costs, that's generally frowned upon iirc.

Off the top of my head
Dropping armor, balls, plates, big choppas... +~100pts
2 PKs, a painboy upgrade, 2 big shootas... +~90pts
Leaves you with 15 points... I suppose you could make your buggies into more Koptas, or invest in nob wargear.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1288720.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1288720.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :) i got rid of my warbuggies, wreckin balls, big choppas and other small things i probs forgot about.. and with the points i had i added pk's to the boys squads, added ard cases and 3 big shootas to each of my battle wagons and added a painboy to my nobz (Y)

and now i have 40 points left over which im trying to work out..]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290273.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
daBIGboss wrote:ok well ive changed a few things around now..
i got rid of my warbuggies, wreckin balls, big choppas and other small things i probs forgot about.. and with the points i had i added pk's to the boys squads, added ard cases and 3 big shootas to each of my battle wagons and added a painboy to my nobz (Y)

and now i have 40 points left over which im trying to work out..

Can you post an updated list?

As a note, 'ard case is an atrociously bad upgrade 95% of the time. Transporting boyz is not in the 5%. You lose the ability to disembark and then assault along with the ability to disembark properly, and if they're shootas then you lose most of the shooting to crummy firing points... 'ard case hamstrings the whole plan.

And 4 big shootas on the wagon is a bit of a waste. You have to be stationary to fire more than 1, and can't fire them for the half of the game that you're driving up to drop the boyz.

Make sure you remember to drop the 'eavy armor on the boss and nobs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290313.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290313.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
But i like the idea of having an extra saving roll for the nobz and warboss, since combined theyre basically my armies real muscle]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290380.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290380.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
Squig for warboss.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290402.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290402.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
daBIGboss wrote:But i like the idea of having an extra saving roll for the nobz and warboss, since combined theyre basically my armies real muscle
Read the Warbike wargear entry on page 46. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290437.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
Read the Warbike wargear entry on page 46.


lol yeah i know about that, but the armour would give another 4+ save and therefor decrease chance of death

and by the way, this is my first army ill actually be playing with so sorry if i sound like a dud, im not too experienced as of yet


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Squig for warboss.


i think id prefer a power klaw lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290445.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290445.page GMT Re:1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
i think id prefer a power klaw lol


You can have both an attack squig and a pk on the warboss, the squig is an equipment upgrade.

lol yeah i know about that, but the armour would give another 4+ save and therefor decrease chance of death


If you purchase warbikes for them, they automatically get 4+ armor save, you don't need to buy 'eavy armour.
I like to buy them cybork bodies if you play against tau, they reduce cover saves so having an invulnerable save is nice.

Oh I just re-read your post about heavy armour, it sounds like you think you can have 2x 4+ armor saves, this is not possible.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290451.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
daBIGboss wrote:
Read the Warbike wargear entry on page 46.


lol yeah i know about that, but the armour would give another 4+ save and therefor decrease chance of death

and by the way, this is my first army ill actually be playing with so sorry if i sound like a dud, im not too experienced as of yet


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Squig for warboss.


i think id prefer a power klaw lol


Squig is a upgrade, not a weapon. Your warboss still attack with his S10 klaw.
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]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290459.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290459.page GMT Re:1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :) btw, 9 nob warbikers w/ warboss warbiker is a bit too much in a 1500 pt game.

Drop it down to say 6, I like have half big choppa and half pk for better wound allocation and to make it even better give one of them a waaagh banner. I also always roll with big choppa on the warboss, I feel he should fight first since he's the biggest and bestest ork around...none of this pk initiative 1 crap.

Oh and when you model a painboy on a warbike, I want to see pictures! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290462.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290462.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
Oh btw, 9 nob warbikers w/ warboss warbiker is a bit too much in a 1500 pt game.


ive been told that alot, but when you see what a large squad of these boys can do, you'll see its deff worth the points lol. I guess all i can do is try it out, and if it doesnt work out, i can always change it

it'll be about 2-4 weeks before i get all the warbikes and stuff i need for the squad but ill def take pics and keep everyone updated on how theyre going
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290467.page GMT Re:1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
ive been told that alot, but when you see what a large squad of these boys can do, you'll see its deff worth the points lol. I guess all i can do is try it out, and if it doesnt work out, i can always change it


I know exactly what they can do, but it's not much if they don't have big choppas or pk...big choppa equates to str 7 on the charge, and pk is str 9 on the charge

So why are 7 of your really really expensive nob bikers only have slugga/choppas equating to str 5 on the charge?

Oh and since you have a warboss in the army, he is allowed to make your nob squad a troop choice which is good for objective games.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290473.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290473.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
I know exactly what they can do, but it's not much if they don't have big choppas or pk


but mine do have big choppas and pk's lol. 4 pk's and 5 big choppas]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290480.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290480.page GMT Re:1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
but mine do have big choppas and pk's lol. 4 pk's and 5 big choppas


Much better!!

Elite
9 Nob bikers- 405
+eavy armour-45 645
+4 Power klaws-125
+WAAGH! Banner-15
+Painboy on bike-55
+5 big choppas-25


You still need to drop the 'eavy armour, give them cybork bodies for 45 points.

So equipped with cyborks, you will have a 4+ armor save, 4+ cover save, and 5+ invulernable save to protect you from tau markerlights and heavy flamers.

Also a 4+ FNP

Oh and it comes to 670 points for the nob biker squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290488.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290488.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :) LR?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290500.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290500.page GMT Re:1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
jehjr1337 wrote:Oh btw, 9 nob warbikers w/ warboss warbiker is a bit too much in a 1500 pt game.

Drop it down to say 6, I like have half big choppa and half pk for better wound allocation and to make it even better give one of them a waaagh banner. I also always roll with big choppa on the warboss, I feel he should fight first since he's the biggest and bestest ork around...none of this pk initiative 1 crap.

Oh and when you model a painboy on a warbike, I want to see pictures!

Biker warboss with bigchoppa is a huge joke...

Cannot harm AV14 at all.

Cannot instant death T5 guys.Even an ogryn could laugh at you. Only instant death for T4 characters at the first turn.

But most of the big names has 2+/3+ armor, and your choppa...

Do almost nothing against 2+/3+ armor.

When your most expensive boy cannot hurt your opponent's big guys, why take him?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290505.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290505.page GMT Re:1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
Biker warboss with bigchoppa is a huge joke...

Cannot harm AV14 at all.


On charge, warboss with big choppa has Str8, I believe Str8 can glance AV 14 which can "hurt" it.

It's just a personal choice, I do not play against too many monoliths or AV 14 vehicles because I'm used to attacking vehicles who have av14 front armor and av 10 on rear armor (like 95% of the vehicles in 40k).

I have 15 Lootas to take care of the "big names"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290510.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1290510.page GMT 1500pt speed freeaks list, tell me what you think :)
whats the more common games?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1292813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/276307/1292813.page GMT