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				<title>Witch Elves</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I not sure if I am posting this in the correct area but here is my question. Has anyone made a witch elf army(using Crone) and how well did it play.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:12:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Witch Elves</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ No.<br /> <br /> Never seen it.<br /> <br /> Probably badly as the Which elves are pretty much the worst value special selection available.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:09:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Witch Elves</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Waaagh_Gonads wrote:</cite>No.<br /> <br /> Never seen it.<br /> <br /> Probably badly as the Which elves are pretty much the worst value special selection available.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Do you have any particular reasoning for that statement?  <br /> They're paper thin, but with enough target saturation and used in small units they seem like they can be a sledgehammer with their volume of attacks]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:06:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Razzle]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Witch Elves</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Oh, no, the Witches are not even close for worst special choice. That disticntion goes to Executioners, who (despite a fantastic mini) suck hardcore. Sure, they strike with S6. They use great weapons, which always strike last. On T3, Armor save 5+ models, that means you only get one round of combat with them - the round you charge. The rest of the time the battle line will be swept by... whatever it was you needed S6 to deal with in the first place.<br /> <br /> Sure, you can use the Banner of Hag Graef to give them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(474);'>ASF</span>, but you can't do it the easy way - by giving the banner to the unit standard bearer - because it costs too much. You have to give it to your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> to carry, preventing her from taking one of the other options.<br /> <br /> Her? Well, you see, the Executioners are Khainites - devout worshipers of the Dark Elf god of murder. No Master will trust them enough to join their unit. So... you have to use a more expensive, unarmored Death Hag. By the way... she has Frenzy too, so she can be baited out of the unit.<br /> <br /> I'll grant you that <i>one large unit</i> of Witches is going to have a hard time. Several small units - especially when backed up by Hydras and characters on monsters - will draw little fire. Then they hit the battleline and go through rank & file like a chainsaw.  <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> The problem with Hellebrone is that she is a massively expensive character on an expensive monster... <i>with no armor saves at all.</i> Anything with high-strength ranged attacks (or worse, ranged poison!) will cut her down in a volley, two at most.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:23:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Vulcan]]></author>
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				<title>Witch Elves</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Executioners are better than witches...No frenzy, and some armor, plus killing blow (Which you don't have to use great weapons for), higher strength,  and higher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:35:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ skyth]]></author>
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				<title>Witch Elves</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Vulcan, Hellebron doesn't have a mount.<br /> <br /> And she's awesome in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>, just don't get her shot. I was thinking of including her as my Lord choice but decided against it, mainly because i was going to buy 20 witch elves to be her retinue, but that would be quite expensive (in real life money).<br /> <br /> I might include her later on in the army though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:46:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eldar Own]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Eldar Own wrote:</cite>Vulcan, Hellebron doesn't have a mount.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Whoop!.  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0"> I forgot they changed her in the new book. Now the manticore is an option, not a require. My bad!<br /> <br /> Hmmm. Using Executioners with just their hand weapons, rather than great weapons? <i>Interresant.</i> Killing blow still makes them somewhat dangerous, and not having to wait 'til last to go might make a big difference. I'll have to play around with that and see what happens.<br /> <br /> I know that when a unit of Witches hits a typical Core R&F unit things get... messy. And they really only need a unit just big enough to present a frontage of 5-7 when they hit - SCR is pretty much irrelevant for Witches, they win by generating kills.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:59:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Vulcan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Vulcan, way to point out all the downsides to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(474);'>ASF</span> executioners.  I was going to say that another downside is, because that unit is so obviously not something you want to fight, that nobody does.  Same goes for putting Hellebron into a unit with an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(474);'>ASF</span>-ing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> - you simply don't let it contact you.  Says the guy who accidentally let it mince his ogre gutstar in the one tournament he fought it ...<br /> <br /> I really like witches myself, and I think fielded in 7-10 chick units as mass <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> core, backed up by cauldron(s) to make them stubborn and beef them up, has some possibility.  Frankly, I'm just waiting for plastic witches to come out (and to be hot) before I throw into a full khaine army led by Ms. S10 herself.  Thankfully I may have a bit of a wait until <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> Wave 2/3 hits <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> - Salvage]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:40:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Boss Salvage]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Witch Elves</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ That's a thought....<br /> <br /> Hellebron and some witches as a distraction unit... "HERE is the real threat. Just ignore these hydras going around the sides, HERE is the threat you need to worry about..."  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:12:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Vulcan]]></author>
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