http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net KPs. Dont whine to me either way, its the tourny organizers decision. That said i'd just like an honest look at this list, its exactly 1,750pts, and worth 12kps.. It will be 100% annihilation matches, but still must follow force organization restrictions. as such troop choices are minimized as well as points invested in them! I'm unwilling to get rid of the kroot just because of all the defensive applications they have. All other considerations will be taken seriously so long as you give them in a serious light.. Thanks in advance to all who take an honest look/give constructive criticism

El 287
mp/plas/multi + HW drone controller (2 shield drone) +HW BSF
Body Guard
Plasma/missile/Targetting array + Hw multi
Body guard
plasma/missile/targetting array + hw multi +HW BSF

El 287
mp/plas/multi + HW drone controller (2 shield drone) +HW BSF
Body Guard
Plasma/missile/Targetting array + Hw multi
Body guard
plasma/missile/targetting array + hw multi + HW BSF


Crisis Team 197
Team leader- TL Mp/Targ Array + HW drone Controller (2 shield drones) +HW BSF
TL MP/Targ Array
TL MP/Targ Array


8 pathfinder + Fish+dpod/multi/Flech/targ array = 206

6fw 60

10 kroot = 70


Hammer head 180
BC/Rail/Dpod/Multi/Targ lock/Flech

Hammer head 180
Bc/Rail/Dpod/Multi/Targ lock/Flech

Broad side team 283
Team lead Ass +HW Targ Lock + HW drone Cont + 2 shield drone +HW BSF
Ass
Ass


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You've also thrown a lot of points into those suits do you really need that many Shas'vre?

I'd also advise put6ting an AFP in there on one of the 'Els just to help the Hammerheads with crowd control.

Other than that? Well most of your stuff has BS4 or equivalent (Bs3 TL for broadsides) so do you erally need all 8 MLs firing at one target? On average boosting 4 units to Bs5 do you need 4 (5 including the pathfinders) firing at 1 target? I'd try to find away to fit in another devilfish so you can split the pathfinder team into two units of 4. Do you need the TA and MT on their Devilfish? It is not a huge threat anyway and that can help go towards another Dekvilfish (just another 65 points to find).

But overall this looks pertty tough mission considered.

Glad they are not counting drones on vehicles as extra KPs that is just dumb...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/277823/1312633.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/277823/1312633.page GMT el. It's been incredibly valuable to me in the past two same. It blew right through the cover and armour of the guardsmen I killed yesterday. I killed 14 of them on the first shot. I also killed 9 guardians the day before then I fought Eldar.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/277823/1312663.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/277823/1312663.page GMT BSF to be VERY VERY useful on suits when i do get DoW it ensures i get first turn shots..it tends to really piss people off lol

That being said..the only BSF that are there for a purpose are 1 in each team of El/Body guard to allow for wound abuse. The rest are all because i had spare points :( 12 if i remember correctly..

Yea i considered splitting the pathfinder team in 2, but that would add 2 more kill points :( As it stands now the primary purpose of pathfinders would be to remove cover saves adding BS to squads is a secondary role..but if its out in the open...you can be sure they are going to eat tons of BS 5 fire lol

The TA and Multi on the fish, figured since the Fire warriors will be hiding in the fish for the most part..figured investing 15pts for 5 str 5 shots at 12'' movement was worth it..

Yea the kroot will hide unless i go up against a pod army, scout alpha strike, etc type army that they can infiltrate to throw in a wrench

Yea ive been considering the AFP on one of the ELs, but given the meta game and the changes to the nids i dont think i'll really need it..especially against the new nids if i'm able to punch hard enough and take down synapse...then i get to watch hormies get flechet to death from having to assault vehicles ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/277823/1312821.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/277823/1312821.page GMT