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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>- 170<br /> Big Mek w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span>- 85<br /> Big Mek w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span>- 85 <br /> <br /> Troops- 880<br /> 29 Ork Boyz w/ 17 Shootas, 3 Big Shootas and Nob w/ Boss Pole and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>- 220<br /> 29 Ork Boyz w/ 17 Shootas, 3 Big Shootas and Nob w/ Boss Pole and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>- 220<br /> 29 Ork Boyz w/ 17 Shootas, 3 Big Shootas and Nob w/ Boss Pole and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>- 220 <br /> <br /> Elites- 300<br /> 10 Lootas- 150 <br /> 10 Lootas- 150<br /> <br /> Fast Attack- <br /> Deffkopta w/ Buzzsaw and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits- 70<br /> Deffkopta w/ Buzzsaw and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits- 70<br /> Deffkopta w/ Buzzsaw and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits- 70<br /> <br /> Heavy Support- 450<br /> 3 Killa Kans w/ Rokkits- 150<br /> 3 Killa Kans w/ Rokkits- 150<br /> 3 Killa Kans w/ Rokkits- 150<br /> <br /> Total- 1835 ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:58:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Drop all the gretchin and increase the loota numbers. The gretchin serve little purpose because the kanz give them a cover save anyway, use the lootas for ranged support and anti tank. Any points left get another deffkopter. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The gretchins are for grabbing objectives late in the game. They hang in reserve and walk on to grab objectives I drop in my deployment. Otherwsise, I waste 30 boyz grabbing objectives.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:10:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And buy rokkitz for the koptaz!!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:22:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Shadow_Captain wrote:</cite>The gretchins are for grabbing objectives late in the game. They hang in reserve and walk on to grab objectives I drop in my deployment. Otherwsise, I waste 30 boyz grabbing objectives.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> forget bro !! they dont live long !!<br /> <br /> Killa kans and lootas are the best units in the WWWAAAGGGHHHH !!!!<br /> <br /> use then hard!<br /> <br /> less than 13 lootas is not recomended! <br /> <br /> i like snikrot allot !!! can you use then in your event?<br /> <br /> the rest i like !! <br /> <br /> good game bro !!  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> may the wagh be with you !!!  <img src="/s/i/a/9576fdd015edbd19edbaabd1556a4944.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:24:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Shadow_Captain wrote:</cite>The gretchins are for grabbing objectives late in the game. They hang in reserve and walk on to grab objectives I drop in my deployment. Otherwsise, I waste 30 boyz grabbing objectives.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You have enough troops choices already. 30 boyz won't be a waste when flamers come along, you'll be wanting those high numbers so you can lose some and still have survivors on the objective which can attack back next turn.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:24:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bad idea about grots as orks play to annihilate. You can grab opponents objective that is enough to win most of the time. And "wasting" one mob means only to cap all the objectives with it because the mob is big!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:26:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cool. Alright guys. Droppin the weedy runts for more Dakka ! <br /> <br /> See wot I did dere? <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:32:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Post refined list... also dont forget about RLs for koptaz. And even the loota squads. One small and one big is wierd.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:11:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ w0chtulka]]></author>
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				<title>1850 Ork Competitive(UPDATED)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well, I recrunched the numbers and realized I was over 1850. So I had to drop the Koptas to get under. Now I have 50 points to burn and no idea what to do with it. <br /> <br /> I really liked the copters, suicide turn 1 tank assaulting was a tasty concept, so if anyone has ideas of where I can shave points to get them back in, that'd be great!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:29:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>w0chtulka wrote:</cite>Post refined list... also dont forget about RLs for koptaz. And even the loota squads. One small and one big is wierd.</div></blockquote><br /> Why is it weird? The way I've seen it explained makes perfect sense: <br /> If you take 10 orks, they will make a leadership test if 3 die. You fail this 50% of the time, and 105 pts of additional orks will run off the board.<br /> If you take 5 orks, they will take a leadership test if 2 die. You fail this 50% of the, and 45 pts of additional orks will run off the board.<br /> <br /> So, you take 1 group of 15 because at that point they need to kill 6 orks to even get you below fearless, and you take another group of 5 because it's not as big a threat and if they do allocate shots to it, it's not a big deal if they do end up running away.<br /> <br /> I think it makes sense anyway.<br /> <br /> Only thing I can see to make room for deff koptas is to replace some rokkits with Grotzookas, but I dunno if that's good or not.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:35:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Dropped a mob of boyz grabbed the deffkoptas with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> rokkits now on top of the buzzsaws and big shootas into the remaining mobs.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:01:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shadow_Captain]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I just realized something, when you write:<br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>29 Ork Boyz <b>w/ 17 Shootas</b>, 3 Big Shootas and Nob w/ Boss Pole and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>- 220<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> Is the 17 a typo or are you thinking of taking half the mob with slugga choppa? I don't think you can do that if so.<br /> <br /> Probably a typo, but just to be safe :p<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:34:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Typo! Thanks!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:34:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Replace several rokkits with grotzookas, on the kans. Points for more lootas.]]></description>
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