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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Grand Master + 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> Terms <br /> 375 points<br /> <br /> Emp Champ + Accept any challenge <br /> 140 points<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> 8 Terms (3 thunder hammers, 5 lightning claws)<br /> 320 points<br /> <br /> Dreadnaught<br /> + Twin Link Las <br /> + Veneralbe<br /> 145 Points<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 5 Initiates<br /> + Plasma Cannon <br /> 100 points<br /> <br /> 5 Initiates<br /> +Lascannon<br /> 95 Points<br /> <br /> 5 Grey Knights<br /> 1 Justicar<br /> + Psycannon<br /> +Rhino<br /> 225 Points<br /> <br /> Heavy<br /> Land Raider Crusaider<br /> 265 Points<br /> <br /> Vindicator<br /> 125 points<br /> <br /> Predator Destructor<br /> 125 points<br /> <br /> total = 1655 points<br /> <br /> Some extra points for armoury and smokelaunchers and extra armour stuff<br /> <br /> WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? PLEASE HELP ME OUT. IM AGAINST A LOT OF <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> LEMON RUSS AND CHAOS TROOPS.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:40:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not work at all.<br /> <br /> Both templars and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GKs</span> is mainly for close combat. You have not enough reliable way to deliver them into combat, while the shooting of your army is poor.<br /> <br /> Reduce the number of termies (e.g 5 men in a squad, give them proper abilities like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> and equipments) then fill them into 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span>.<br /> <br /> Find some transport vehicles for your troops.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:07:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i dont have 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span>... so what should i do. And i need many <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> to destroy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> tanks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:34:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Where are the Grey Knights getting the rhino from?  One of the Initiates squads?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:58:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yea basically. does that work? i want the initiates to do the tank shooting. so yea<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> oh and i will add a teleporter homer to the Grand Master squad so i can teleport in the rest of the terms.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:13:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think you'll have huge issues in dealing with numbers. You have 3 5 man troop squads. So in a scoring unit based scenario, you have a total of 15 models that can nab up objectives. That's really really low. You'll have to be careful about that.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 17 Feb 2010 04:15:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Teleport your termies?<br /> <br /> Well, after you teleport them to the table, you cannot tie them into close combat the same turn. So your opponent has a whole turn to do 2 things:<br /> <br /> 1) Shoot you to pieces.<br /> 2) If "1)" cannot be completed by his nearby units, move valueable units away.<br /> <br /> To avoid that, your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> unit should have at least one of the properties below:<br /> 1) They can have some big kills in first shooting after landing(like obliteraters, zoanthropes, etc)<br /> 2) Or, you have many of such units(Like all-droppod <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>)<br /> 3) Or, you have many wounds to avoid casualty from shooting (like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(233);'>GUO</span>, Trygon)<br /> <br /> Your teminators units have NONE of them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 17 Feb 2010 04:29:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ok so basically cuz im playing a lot of chaos and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>, should i take out the 8 Term squad and put in more initiates?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 17 Feb 2010 05:55:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:First Black Templar-Grey Knight Army 1750 POINTS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok this is my new Army list. Keep in mind that i am against a lot of Chaos and a lot of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Emperors Champion accept any challenge <br /> <br /> Grey Knights grand master with thing which gives -1 initiative to all chaos models and reduse daemons weapon skill in 2 times (i mean 1/2 daemons weapon skill)<br /> with 5 grey knights terminators<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> Dreadnaught<br /> +Lascannon<br /> +Crack<br /> +Venerable<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 10 initiates with power fist and meltagun <br /> 9 initiates with rhino plasma gun and plasma cannon<br /> 10 initiates with power fist and meltagun with rhino<br /> <br /> Heavy Support<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span><br /> Predator Destructor<br /> Vindicator<br /> <br /> What do you think?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:13:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Way better in my opinion. I love initiates a lot and powerfist/meltaguns can crack open heavy tanks and bigger infantry like no other (even more so if you stick the champion with them). <br /> <br /> With the boosted numbers you'll be more durable and wont feel a lucky plasma cannon shot as much as you would before. One good shoot from a plasma cannon before and you could lose 5 models and be down a third of your troop choice in one hit.<br /> <br /> Try and get the pred some heavy bolter addons. They kill <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> pretty good. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> the biggest thing you are missing I see is anti tank. The melta guns help but against a tank heavy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> army... You may need to try and get a tri lascannon pred out there (if you can).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:13:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TakamineG]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yea thx. thats what i was thinking. And you can shoot out of a rhino right? so that is a plus. I have Dreadnaught and tri lascannon on the pred. They usually have 10 tanks.. so yea.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:04:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ in order to keep 1750 points i think i would have to take out the vindicator. So basically im adding 2-3 rhino's and taking away the vindicator. <br /> <br /> Do you think taht is a good idea?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:34:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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