http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net WH40K player, currently playing Space Wolves. I am coming up to around 3000 points in SW, so am looking for something new. Naturally, i'm turning to a new system. Based on the fact that I enjoy the combat focus of the SW, and the un-squishiness of them, what should I play? I narrowed it to something like Beastmen, Dark Elves, Lizardmen, or one of the chaos. But then, I know nothing, so feel free to suggest something other than those four.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1386415.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1386415.page GMT

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I agree with dwarfs to an extent. I started with fantasy dwarfs and when I thought about 40k, I felt a natural draw to SW. There must be something about the dwarfs combat ability, loyality, and toughness that I saw in SW.

But out of the armies you listed, I think lizardmen and WoC can be tough combat armies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1386875.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1386875.page GMT WoC, so i'm staying away from them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1386960.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1386960.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1387064.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1387064.page GMT SM in 40K) and are they high points, but hard to kill like Necrons, or throw them into battle and hope that some of them survive, but it dosn't really matter because you have 200 like the Orks?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1387289.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1387289.page GMT SM. Sorry, I don't know anything about necrons, but dwarfs have a lot of lasting power. They have a 4 weapon skill, 4 toughness, a pretty good armor save, and their lowest leadership is a 9, so chances are they will be around for the whole fight. They are cheap enough to get decent blocks, but not so cheap as to have a hoard army. Dwarfs don't have any magic, but have the best war machines in the game. They also have runic items that let you customize your characters a little more than other armies.

The other choice I would suggest is Lizardmen. They have all the same advantages as the dwarfs, but have better movement, not a whole lot of shooting, but pretty good magic. You also get to run around with dinosaurs.
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Warriors are combat/magic heavy, lizards' competitive builds tend towards monsters, magic and skirmishers. Dark Elves are nasty but not at all durable.

If you want something durable and fighty, I'd probably recommend Warriors of Chaos. The only other thing to factor in is where and when you expect to play (i.e. against a few friends vs. GTs).

RZ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1387491.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1387491.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1388905.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1388905.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1389632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1389632.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1390401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1390401.page GMT
RZ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1390608.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1390608.page GMT D6 Zombies spell definitley makes this a horde army that can come back faster than they can be killed!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1390693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1390693.page GMT mmm... Squishy Zombie...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1395927.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1395927.page GMT
Dwarves are a good army, but the biggest thing is they lack a robust movement phase. Now they make up for it with great toughness, leadership, and combat prowess. BUT, you may get bored of the tactics involved with Dwarves.

I still stick by Lizardmen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1401695.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282614/1401695.page GMT