<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/8.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models GW chaos black to prime, im also washing the models with soap and water to remove any releasing agents that may be present on them, any tips?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389542.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389542.page GMT Re:Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models 1. your not washing the minis good enough(possible but its not rocket science washing things)
2. your paint is bad.
Buy some new paint and try it again. And as I write this, I thought of another common problem. Hows the weather conditions where you paint? Is it wet? humid? cold? Any of those can make paint not stick well]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389560.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389560.page GMT Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models GW chaos black paint? The paint is not a primer, you should use something like paint on gesso or a GW or Armory spray primer to prime your minis (or verious other cheaper spray primers that I have little experience with)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389566.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389566.page GMT Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389574.page GMT Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models
Backno wrote:Get a real primer and you will stop having that problem. I swear by black Gesso (white and grey suck and really should not be used) becuase as long as you dont just dip the model the gesso will show all the details and you dont have missed spots from having to spray prime.


What's wrong with Grey Gesso?

I prefer Grey as I can just 'see' it better, and the details too, on the model...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389635.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389635.page GMT Re:Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models GW white many years ago (10-15) and those models still exist, strong as ever.

I use an electric toothbrush to clean my models. Works a treat. Once I have an old toothbrush head I use those.

I recently painted an old school vampire from GW. The mini's from about 10-15 years ago and sitting in a box. The pewter went a darker gray, which doesn't look like mould but more like dirt and dust stains. The good old electric toothbrush fixed that up with some hot, soapy water. Just don't expect to clean the model in 2 seconds. Put some effort into cleaning the model otherwise you will have issues later.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389715.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389715.page GMT Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models GW chaos b lack primer.
Its almost like... it turns rubbery? and peels off ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389775.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389775.page GMT Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models
It goes on smooth and I've sprayed with it snowing and raining outside (I prime on my front porch)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1389812.page GMT Re:Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models
I've found that methylated spirits/nail polish remover can help in the really stubborn bits.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1390113.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1390113.page GMT Re:Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models GW changed their paint about a year and a half ago. It used to be an actual primer. Now it is more like a black spray paint - almost gloss when it goes on. It is horrible. I have been using Rustoleum Dark Grey (black) Automotive primer and have had wonderful luck with it. No chipping, no peeling, and it is about $4 a can instead of $15. Give it a shot on a test model - it makes a world of difference.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1396178.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1396178.page GMT Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models GW's Chaos Black is NOT a primer, and is NOT a suitable replacement for primer.

Use some Krylon spray primer. Comes in white, ruddy brown (red-brown), and black.

Also, when painting metal models you should use some kind of jig/holder. Paint will chip off a metal model just by being touched, especially on edges or points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1396214.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1396214.page GMT Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models
Alpharius wrote:
Backno wrote:Get a real primer and you will stop having that problem. I swear by black Gesso (white and grey suck and really should not be used) becuase as long as you dont just dip the model the gesso will show all the details and you dont have missed spots from having to spray prime.


What's wrong with Grey Gesso?

I prefer Grey as I can just 'see' it better, and the details too, on the model...


Have not tried Grey, but I have used White Gesso (the Liquitex brand). It's awful. Goes on uneven and dries horribly lumpy. Where the black lays down smooth and dries flat and even as long as you are careful not to use too many brush strokes the White is impossible to duplicate this effect with.

I've considered trying to mix the two to get a grey. Hopefully the magical qualities of the Black Gesso will impart on the White. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1396221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1396221.page GMT Having trouble getting paint to stay on citadel pewter models
Blue Orphen wrote:Also, when painting metal models you should use some kind of jig/holder. Paint will chip off a metal model just by being touched, especially on edges or points.

QFT, I am currently painting my first set of metal figs. If I look at the mini wrong, the paint and primer will rub off, and metal will show. I washed, scrubbed, rinsed and primed. Maybe I need to prime it again.
But what do you mean by jig/holder? I am assuming some type of matte finish to seal the paint job?
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tblock1984 wrote:
But what do you mean by jig/holder? I am assuming some type of matte finish to seal the paint job?


An old paint pot or two, stuck together and the mini fixed to the top with blue tack or similar product. I'm using a very old Citadel pot (the taller ones with the dodgy white lids), big blob of tack and firmly push the model on. This way you're holding something that isn't part of the model and causing edges to rub off.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1397135.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282820/1397135.page GMT