<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Best way to use plague marines?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1389701.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1389701.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? pf. If I go plasma, I give the champ a plasma pistol as I feel like the extra shot helps out. They always are in a rhino and I never run anything but 7 man squads. Fluffy number and economic. They can take a withering amount of firepower and usually deliver as a solid troop choice. Just remember that they only deliver threat in the short to mid range and that in combat they tend to grind down their opponents rather then sweep them quickly. Hidden powerfists will always be a threat and you should gauge if the target is worth the effort.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1390021.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1390021.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1390117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1390117.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?
If your entire army is full of them, like mine, give them different loadouts for different roles. I never take Champs. It's just CC upgrades for something you don't want to be getting into CC (seriously, Initiative 3). Take Plasmas for objectives campers, flamers for hordes, and meltas for everything else. It's quite simple.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1390127.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1390127.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1390342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1390342.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?
I actually run my Plaguers as objective takers. I run them 7 strong, in a Rhino, with 2 Meltaguns, an Icon and a Champion with a combi-flamer.

That's a good configuration.
Additionally, you need units able to give fire support while the Rhinos advance.
Obliterators are ideal in this respect. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1391101.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1391101.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? MoT, Warptime, Doombolt) runs with them to fight off the odd close combat, especially after I've deployed the daemons. If I've played my cards right, the opponent should be too damaged to fight them off their objective around turn 4. They replaced my Berserkers early on because they aren't as durable and can't fight back in the end game if you've only got a tenuous grasp on victory.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1391270.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1391270.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? IMO:

7-10, 2 special weapons, Rhino, fist.
That's the basic outline.

I go with 10 PMs as they are big beefy squads, but 7 is the more economical.

Any of the special weapons find good homes on the plague marines, while plasma pistols are a poor choice in general (when you have acces to meltas).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1391574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1391574.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? MC and Terminator bite and meltas obviously give you an option to roast a tank or two. The powerfist champion isn't losing much with his I of 3 and the strength 8 attacks always help swing combats with the already relatively tepid fighting ability of the Plague Marines. The combi flamer is a cheap weapon that you will almost always find a good use out of if the squad is in Rhino. Plague Marines, while not terrible in close combat, don't have the sheer numbers to plow through horde units offensively. An extra flamer shot against bunched up Orks/gaunts that aren't catalyzed/guardsmen helps to tip the ensuing assault in your favor. Those 5 points are definitely worth the utility it gives the squad. Tough objective takers and vehicle/creature hunters with a nice one off flamer/rapid fire attack to blunt hordes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1391596.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1391596.page GMT Re:Best way to use plague marines?
now that there are no cults i dont mess around with non-existent rune numbers. i take 5 man squds. do the math. they are as survivable as 10 standard marines...stronger in some places weaker in others on basic damage absorption.


i take a fist/champ combi-melta squad takes a melta and flamer

after extensive play testing i found that i only ever get an oppurtunity to fire the 2 meltas at once, once per game so that fact that one is a combi weapon is meaningless. chaos rhinos only have 1 fire point...hense you can only fire the one melta from the hatch anyway. you have to disembark to fire both meltas....than you get charged anyway. Having an actual flamer is crucial in games against horde armies...u basically drive around in ur rhinos 6 inches while firing flamers from the hatch turn after turn...untill they finally wreck it...than you fire it one last time b4 assaulting.

at 1750 i take 4 rhinos with squads loaded out this way...and the rhinos take extra armor , dozer, blade and combi-melta....since the game is about KPs and not VPs no worries over 60 point rhinos....also it doesnt hurt to through in 6 oblits cheers
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Please reread the rules/faq, the Rhino has 1 fire point where 2 models can shoot out of.

5 man squads are meh in terms of number/durabiliy for points/kill points. 7 is the economical number and a great balance of bodies/durability/cost.

Pairs of weapons are 4 times better, so keeping that around (even if it's combi) is good.

MSU can work, but not for everyone.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1399395.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1399395.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? GW faq?oh sweet.


as for squad size do what ever...i have had massive success in 5th edition with 5 man units]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1399944.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1399944.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?
You didn't know about the Rhino's two-fer-one firing point? The notion of taking 5-man squads is a good one though, as it maximizes the number of units you can take, and having more units is better, particularly if those units are like Plague Marines and require specific weapons like Plasma Cannons and Power Weapons to remove. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400045.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400045.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?
ZacktheChaosChild wrote:In armies where there are other troops, it doesn't matter, sit them on objectives. You'll have it for the entire game

If your entire army is full of them, like mine, give them different loadouts for different roles. I never take Champs. It's just CC upgrades for something you don't want to be getting into CC (seriously, Initiative 3). Take Plasmas for objectives campers, flamers for hordes, and meltas for everything else. It's quite simple.


I usually find that melta guns are all purpose. I don't think you need flamers for hordes. T5 and FNP is usually a good thing to stop hordes. That and just plain old bolters and defensive grenades.

Overall, sound advice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400161.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400161.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? PG and one melta gun, usually in rhinos, if i got the points i'll add a champ with power weapon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400649.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400649.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?

@imweasle ur right about that...well untill tervigon:gaunt combo came out..... the gaunts will seriously kill the hole squad b4 you swing back and if they have multiple tervigons....its even harder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400693.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?
Darkness wrote:@Nurglitch i guess i should read more haha


@imweasle ur right about that...well untill tervigon:gaunt combo came out..... the gaunts will seriously kill the hole squad b4 you swing back and if they have multiple tervigons....its even harder


Gaunts have no frag grenades .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400699.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400699.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?
tokugawa wrote:
Darkness wrote:@Nurglitch i guess i should read more haha


@imweasle ur right about that...well untill tervigon:gaunt combo came out..... the gaunts will seriously kill the hole squad b4 you swing back and if they have multiple tervigons....its even harder


Gaunts have no frag grenades .


or FNP, or T5 ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400703.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1400703.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? PMs.

It's only when I get to a forth unit that I go plasma.

As for 5 man squads, MSU has it's place, but I find it just doesn't make as much sense as other armies to perform it as they have more economical options.

As for power weapons on plague marines, IMO, utter fail.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1401058.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1401058.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1401573.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1401573.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? GW decides to break it in a new edition...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402036.page GMT Re:Best way to use plague marines? FnP and furious charge]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402169.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402169.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402205.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402205.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? DG http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/forum2.php?rub=5782&cat=3058&login=331128&page=0#id23331]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402470.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402470.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402510.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402510.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?
Darkness wrote:check out this link to my DG http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/forum2.php?rub=5782&cat=3058&login=331128&page=0#id23331



you know those DP's with jetpacks could make VERY ggood nurgle warptime wing DP's ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402551.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402551.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402580.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402580.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? DP's to be MUCH better

i always play a pair; so perfect agaisnt combat squad space marines.

5 attacks on the charge at I5
reroll hits/wounds

bye bye squad]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402642.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402667.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402667.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? dps! but a charge range of 25inch (average) is amazing too]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402687.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1402687.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? DG force is quite redundant. 6 squads all equipped the same way.

7 plague marines, 2 melta guns, champ w/ fist and combi melta, rhino with dozer blades and combi weapon]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405424.page GMT Re:Best way to use plague marines? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405429.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? LRBT cannon ruins your day. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405635.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405635.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405809.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405809.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? PM units with 2 special weapons of the same type, mounted in Rhinos.
They can move and shoot out of the Rhino if necessary.
A unit with 2 plasma guns is ideal for defending a mission objective. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405951.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1405951.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? Why 25"?
12" Fly and 6" charge, that's 18" effective range.

If he had fleet (and he does NOT) it would be 24" max....25 just doesn't exist...


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@TheTrueProtoman:
Well, if it's a regular battlecannon, the plagues only fallback on their cover saves.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1406804.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1406804.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?
TheTrueProtoman wrote:What you mean the tank that when in cover they will get two 4 plus saves? Leman russes don't mean crap to plague marines.


agreed san if its double toughness it negates FNP, and the bast T for PM's are 4]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1408556.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1408556.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1408894.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1408894.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1408918.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1408918.page GMT Re:Best way to use plague marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1408951.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1408951.page GMT Best way to use plague marines?
Sanctjud wrote:@Darkness:
Why 25"?
12" Fly and 6" charge, that's 18" effective range.

If he had fleet (and he does NOT) it would be 24" max....25 just doesn't exist...


I was wondering the same thing and then worked it out. Both of his princes have lash. fly 12, lash average 7, charge 6 = 25.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1409005.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1409005.page GMT Best way to use plague marines? Was wierd, he talked about Nurgle DP, and then 25", missed the "too" on his last sentance.

Didn't register Mark of Slaanesh as it seemed like a Nurgle discussion .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1410313.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/282828/1410313.page GMT