<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406001.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406001.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas
On average: 30 shoota boys = 60 shot = 20 hits = 10 w = ~3 dead wolves. One of these might even be the wolfguard since you force so many saves.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406009.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406009.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas
Be aware that regardless of whether you take shootas or sluggas as green tide, you are at serious risk of being assaulted by mechanized armies. Any army that can assault out of a vehicle (land raiders, open topped, etc...) will be able to drop off and massacre multiple groups at a time if they are strong in CC. While it may seem like the easy way to cover that weakness is by taking sluggas, it's really not, as sluggas are still significantly weaker when they get assaulted than they are when they get the assault. Just set guys up in easy range to shoot + counter assault whatever kills other groups.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406092.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406092.page GMT Re:Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas SM on the move also gives them fits, and there plenty of things you'd rather shoot before assaulting, like space wolves.

I'm experimenting with 2 shoota mobs and a slugga mob in my kan wall (sluggas in the middle) to try and get a feel for how effective it will be to have mixed mobs, whereas normally I just went with shootas. Only 1 game so far against an all outflanking army that let the sluggas walk onto their objective uncontested, so I still have no idea how useful they are.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406185.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406185.page GMT Re:Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406814.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1406814.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas
I find mid size Shoota Mobs 20-25 very effective.

I tend to run the full 30 though if I am going with Choppa boyz.

Look at what your list is lacking first before you decide which type of boy is right for you.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1407092.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1407092.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1407101.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1407101.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas
tastytaste wrote:I love these has to be one or the other arguements. It depends on the role you have for your boyz.

I find mid size Shoota Mobs 20-25 very effective.

I tend to run the full 30 though if I am going with Choppa boyz.

Look at what your list is lacking first before you decide which type of boy is right for you.


I know what you mean, i currently run one squad of 30 boyz with shootas, and a 'Ard' boy squad of 20 with sluggas. Haveing re-read the rules and chatting with a mate I have realised that I have been playing them wrong, damn I am rusty!

So now knowing that I will probably stick with the same thing for at least another game.

I am interested in peoples opiniuns though so this has been great!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1407117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1407117.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1413896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1413896.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas
The reason being 2" assault inclusion. 30 boyz that get the charge may not all attack and will rarely shoot at the target for fear of shooting themselves out of assault. However 30 shoota boyz get to fire 60 "attacks" without worrying about going second.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416180.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416180.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416554.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416554.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416574.page GMT Re:Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas I figure Sluggas, since they will be assaulting almost as soon as they jump out, but the possibility of having to drive around and avoid the big nasty units for some armies (like avoiding footslogging termies or a monstrous creature) could mean that shootas will get some gunfire out.

I know the shootas are optimal for slogging it, but when I add the trukk to the mix it confuses me.

Thanks. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416932.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416932.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas
Regardless of being open-topped and fast, if you travel farther than 6" the passengers cannot fire.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416991.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1416991.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas
starbomber109 wrote:I find that a mix of the two is good. Some things need a good dusting of shoota-shots before they can be charged. While others need 4 attacks going into them, or it could be that I just want to jam a squad into a tarpit. Bog it down with sluggas from trukks, then charge in with shootas (or something else) as the next wave.


I've been running 2 big shoota mobs and 1 big slugga mob in my kan wall so far and it has worked well. Have missed the shootas from the slugga mob sometimes but at other times they were better off as sluggas. The slugga boyz function as my spearhead with kans and the shootas more go after objectives. Always funny seeing my opponent kill a bunch of boyz after charging me and I still get 60 attacks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1417024.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1417024.page GMT Re:Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas
If I ever decide to build a Kan wall, I'll prolly have to drop the cash for shootas though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1417162.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1417162.page GMT Ork boyz, Sluggas and choppas vs Shootas Assuming you move the max 12 each round in your trukk, you can't shoot your shootas
So, it comes down to , disembark, shoot, assault
Both units get 5 attacks all up (shooting and assaulting combined), but in the following round of combat, the sluggas would be better off due to more attacks still remaining

At least, I think thats how it would go
I guess if your trukk got blown up, shoota boys would have a bit more of an advantage]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1420921.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/283922/1420921.page GMT