Black Antelope wrote:bad

*Relentless - Does he give it to his squad? If so, its OP on Devs, if not, its ok.
[NO.]

*Ld10 for all squads is ok
*Cut them down is OP - attach him to a Dev squad w/4 Heavies? What about a Sterngaurd w/10 Combi weapons - Thats 20! Melta shots (or 30 Plasma).
[what the hell? I said TACTICAL SQUADS, AS IN TACTICAL AND NOT ANY OTHER KIND OF SQUAD. DEVASTATORS ARE DEVASTATOR MARINES, NOT TACTICAL MARINES.]
*Giving Tac squads Special Ammo is daft, as it makes them too much like Sterngaurd, which are already a troops choice with one of the SC's
All 3 of these at once? Crazy.
[maybe one squad may take it, instead?]

*Doen't need a special 4++, as he'd have Iron Halo anyway.
[fair enough]
*Don't be memey. If you want a built in PW, have it sticking out of his wrist guard or something.
[it was a joke, but sure, I'd go with an assasains creed- type blade.] maybe it can cause ID on a 6 or something.



So, is there any fluff reasons for this at all?

This could work:
WS6 BS5 S4 T4 I5 A3 Ld10 Sv2+
MC Bolter (w/Special Issue Ammo), Power Weapon, Iron Halo, Artificer Armour
ATSKNF, OB, Relentless (for himself only), Chapter Tactics - Not One Step Black!

Not One Step Back! - Replaces Combat Tactics - The *Insert whatever chapter here* are resolute in the face of certain annihilation, and will never give ground to the enemy. All Sergent models are Ld10. In addition, any Sergent with a Boltgun may purchase Specail Issue Ammunition for 5 points.

Points:
125 + 40 (Termie armour (PW+SB) ~ Artificer+PW+Boltgun+Relentless) + 5 (MC Bolter) + 10 (SIA) + 10 (Chapter Tactics) = 190 points

jp400 wrote:Bad... much like all of your homebrew rules.

ZoomDakkaDakka wrote:Even if it's only Tacs, you could still take 2 heavy weapons with a Tac squad, which would mean 4 heavy weapon shots. And even if he made a mistake confusing what you meant, please don't call other users stupid, it leads to flaming.

Captain Solon wrote:Iggy, stop just speaking. use your ability to create meaningful threads, instead of just spamming, thats my job.

Captain Solon wrote: spamming, thats my job.

Captain Solon wrote:

As for calling me a 'bonna-fide idiotic', is that really necesary?

Captain Solon wrote:

ZoomDakkaDakka wrote:Even if it's only Tacs, you could still take 2 heavy weapons with a Tac squad, which would mean 4 heavy weapon shots. And even if he made a mistake confusing what you meant, please don't call other users stupid, it leads to flaming.

hmmm. since when can tactical squads take 2 heavy weapons?

Captain Solon wrote:Since when can tacs take two heavy weapons!? they can take a heavy and a special weapon, FFS. YOU clearly have not read it if you're saying that.

Terje-Tubby wrote:

Captain Solon wrote:Since when can tacs take two heavy weapons!? they can take a heavy and a special weapon, FFS. YOU clearly have not read it if you're saying that.

He meant heavy like melta or plasma. Two plasmas would mean 6 rapid firing str 7 ap 2 shots. Melta and multi-melta means 4 melta shots. If that`s not OP i don`t know what is
Cheers!

Shas'O Dorian wrote:Angry Marines already have rules for powerfeet, look up their unofficial codex, kinda silly & OOT but I'm working on revising it to be playable

Terje-Tubby wrote:

Shas'O Dorian wrote:Angry Marines already have rules for powerfeet, look up their unofficial codex, kinda silly & OOT but I'm working on revising it to be playable

What`s powerfeet? And where`s the codex, i`d love to check that one out
Cheers!