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				<description><![CDATA[ In honor of me purchasing Graham McNeill's <i>A Thousand Sons</i> (Read up to chapter five so far, so no spoilers please)  I thought I'd once again attempt to come up with a vaguely viable Thousand Sons list to actually play in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span>.<br /> <br /> Now, any list that restricts itself to being a 'pure' Thousand Sons list is always going to skew towards the casual side of the casual/competitive gamer equilibrium, but I'd liek to make it as competitive as humanly possible while remaining within the strictures of fluff for Magnus' Legion.<br /> <br /> Here's the list:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Chaos Sorcerer (Zarathushtra)<br /> Mark of Tzeentch<br /> Warptime<br /> Bolt of Change<br /> 180<br /> <br /> Troops 1<br /> Aspiring Sorcerer (Ohrmuzd)<br /> 8 Thousand Sons (Dust in the Wind)<br /> Bolt of Change<br /> Chaos Rhino<br /> Extra Armour<br /> 319<br /> <br /> Troops 2<br /> Aspiring Sorcerer (Ahura)<br /> 8 Thousand Sons (Cities in Dust)<br /> Warptime<br /> Chaos Rhino<br /> Extra Armour<br /> 319<br /> <br /> Troops 3<br /> Aspiring Sorcerer (Visprad)<br /> 8 Thousand Sons (Another One Bites The Dust)<br /> Bolt of Change<br /> Chaos Rhino<br /> Pintle-Mounted Combi-Flamer<br /> Extra Armour<br /> 329<br /> <br /> Heavy Support 1<br /> Chaos Predator (Revelation)<br /> Heavy Bolter Sponsons<br /> 100<br /> <br /> Heavy Support 2<br /> Chaos Predator (Epiphany)<br /> Heavy Bolter Sponsons<br /> 100<br /> <br /> Heavy Support 3<br /> Chaos Vindicator (Unveiled)<br /> Daemonic Possession<br /> 145<br /> <br /> Total 1492 Points<br /> <br /> Is this a hopelessly futile task?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ chaplaingrabthar]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Dust Bunnies - A 1,500 point pure Thousand Sons list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Bolt of Change is subpar on the Aspiring Sorcerers.  A single S8 shot isn't going to do much against tanks.  I'd take Doombolt on them to better augment your Shooty Sons, and use the extra points to buy something that can kill tanks, be it Obliterators, a Defiler, or Lascannons on a Predator.<br /> <br /> Also, a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> is the same price as a Sorcerer (10 more points base, but the Mark costs 10 less), and is almost universally better.  The Sorc does fit better fluff-wise.  (For me, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> actually fits better - Prince Janus is leading a force of Thousand Sons hunting down Ahriman, so he's not as averse to mutation.)<br /> <br /> My 1500 point list, for comparison:<br /> <br /> Daemon Prince 180 Mark of Tzeentch, Wings, Wind of Chaos<br /> <br /> Sorcerer 70 Doombolt<br /> 8x Thousand Son 184<br /> Rhino 35<br /> <br /> Sorcerer 70 Doombolt<br /> 8x Thousand Son 184<br /> Rhino 35<br /> <br /> Sorcerer 70 Doombolt<br /> 8x Thousand Son 184<br /> Rhino 35<br /> <br /> Obliterator 75<br /> Obliterator 75<br /> Obliterator 75<br /> <br /> Obliterator 75<br /> Obliterator 75<br /> Obliterator 75]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:05:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mr. Bluesky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I go back and forth on the Daemon Prince vs. Sorcerer thing. Sorcerers seem more appropriately Thousand Sons but I'm open to persuasion. (Also, I have the idea of using Ushabti bitz to convert up a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> model)<br /> <br /> Obliterators are sadly right out, as this is supposed to be a pure Thousand Sons army, and Obliterators are not now, or have ever been part of the Thousand Sons legion.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:13:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ chaplaingrabthar]]></author>
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				<title>Dust Bunnies - A 1,500 point pure Thousand Sons list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>chaplaingrabthar wrote:</cite>I go back and forth on the Daemon Prince vs. Sorcerer thing. Sorcerers seem more appropriately Thousand Sons but I'm open to persuasion. (Also, I have the idea of using Ushabti bitz to convert up a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> model)<br /> <br /> Obliterators are sadly right out, as this is supposed to be a pure Thousand Sons army, and Obliterators are not now, or have ever been part of the Thousand Sons legion.</div></blockquote>Yeah, same.  2 Ushtabi Falcons (Janus has, naturally, 2 heads), one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>, one Lord of Change and a whole lot of green stuff.  Going to be an interesting conversion <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(600);'>fo</span>' sho'.  I mentioned the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> because it would give the army some extra anti-armor, which it desperately needs, although there are other ways of getting it.  Also, wings on your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> are made of win - Warptime and Wind don't do anything if you're not in range.<br /> <br /> On the Oblits, I have another convenient fluff modification.  Since Janus is pretty much ransacking the galaxy looking for Ahriman, he's going to be killing a lot of people with a lot of tech on the way.  It's a mutually beneficial agreement between him and the Oblit Cult.  Lascannon Preds are a good, and some would say superior substitute.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:18:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mr. Bluesky]]></author>
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				<title>Dust Bunnies - A 1,500 point pure Thousand Sons list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Chaplaingrabthar, You list will kill the crap out of infantry.  I mean completely blow them off the table.  All of those Predator shells, and the 24-48 inferno bolts + doombolts in each round of shooting are going to scour the earth free of anything that uses feet to get around.<br /> <br /> It is going to have some trouble with vehicles, though.<br /> <br /> That one Bolt of Change, and single Demolisher cannon are pretty much the only thing that you have going for you if you need to kill a trukk or two, so you may want to look into that.<br /> <br /> If you peel that extra armor off of your rhinos you can upgrade one of your Preds to lascannons, or turn it into another Vindicator.  Either will help with your lack of anti-tank, you need to decide if you want to do it from your deployment zone, or from mid-field.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:36:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Groslon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Dust Bunnies - A 1,500 point pure Thousand Sons list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The only thing I would change is the bolt of change on the !k sons. As as the guy above me has said. One <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 8 shot isnt gunna help that much. Plus you want your 1k sons to be shooting every turn if possible.<br /> <br /> Something else you could do is use gift of chaos on your sorc as it helps off set the low model count. Plus it can help get rid of the models that really need to be dead. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>ICs</span> Heavy weapon teams ext ext. Plus if the mission is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>KP</span> you can always just have them turn into mush instead of a spawn. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Oh and +2 cool points for making a fluff list and sticking to it!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:37:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eos Rahh]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Dust Bunnies - A 1,500 point pure Thousand Sons list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Eos Rahh wrote:</cite>The only thing I would change is the bolt of change on the !k sons. As as the guy above me has said. One <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 8 shot isnt gunna help that much. Plus you want your 1k sons to be shooting every turn if possible.<br /> <br /> Something else you could do is use gift of chaos on your sorc as it helps off set the low model count. Plus it can help get rid of the models that really need to be dead. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>ICs</span> Heavy weapon teams ext ext. Plus if the mission is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>KP</span> you can always just have them turn into mush instead of a spawn. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Oh and +2 cool points for making a fluff list and sticking to it!</div></blockquote><br /> Gift is pointless.  If the thing that needs to die is within 6" and has T5 or less, it's going to be getting lit up by AP3 bolter shots.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:42:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mr. Bluesky]]></author>
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