<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Space Marine Vehicle Pilots"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/31.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Space Marine Vehicle Pilots http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447428.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447428.page GMT Space Marine Vehicle Pilots
Though I'd understand some chapters using serfs for it, i know for a fact that Thunderhawk's are often piloted by serfs and/or servitors from novels though... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447435.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447435.page GMT Re:Space Marine Vehicle Pilots http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447528.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447528.page GMT Re:Space Marine Vehicle Pilots
-when Crews were listed IT was SM
-Vehicle Upgrade Sgt chronus
-Crew Models
-bs 4, serfs would Be 3, the machine spirit was 2]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447564.page GMT Re:Space Marine Vehicle Pilots
1hadhq wrote:Space Marines :

-when Crews were listed IT was SM
-Vehicle Upgrade Sgt chronus
-Crew Models
-bs 4, serfs would Be 3, the machine spirit was 2


Right, but are they, as OP said, just scouts who were aces behind the wheel? Did they get shipped off to Mechanis school (like techmarines) for awhile? Is there a separate "armored corps" in each SM chapter where initiates learn most of their training? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1447613.page GMT Re:Space Marine Vehicle Pilots there would be some driving lessons too.
The non-Transport vehicles are Part of the arsenal and
the Crews may get some additional Training from the techmarines.
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In any case the drivers etc are full space marines, not scouts.

Perhaps in some chapters the techmarines have a closer relationship with the crews of the machines and this is shown by having the crews incorporating mechanicum symbols in their armour.
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Because nothing explains anything I have to assume because there is a Brother-Sergeant character vehicle upgrade (that 1hadhq pointed out) that all vehicles are piloted by full fledged marines and are led by sergeants. However, though the reserve companies do pilot land speeders and bikes... that doesn't necessarily mean they pilot the tanks, too. Because they would be listed under the armored company instead of the 8th.

Essentially I'm trying to figure out if Space Marine vehicles have Company/Squad insignia, what they would be (for Blood Angels in this case), and where they are normally placed on the vehicle. I already know how to mark infantry of all kinds. I don't know how to mark my vehicles/crew so that it makes sense fluff wise. The vehicles don't seem to belong to any company other than the armored company. And, crewmen may or may not be from anywhere else in the Chapter. It is kinda puzzling me. If I don't figure it out I'm just not going to give them company/squad markings at all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1448322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1448322.page GMT Space Marine Vehicle Pilots http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1448361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1448361.page GMT Space Marine Vehicle Pilots
Land Raiders, Predators, and, ironically, bikes and Land Speeders are maintained from a central pool (the Armor and loaned out to companies as the need arises. However, it says that company markings are added to the tank while it's on loan.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1449543.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1449543.page GMT Space Marine Vehicle Pilots
"Why, if it isn’t Brother Marius. The injuries from the last training exercise have healed well I see. And that new bionic eye should prove most useful for this next exercise. Tell me, how many hours have you had on Land Speeders up to now?"


I can't really remember where that was from (it was some veteran sergeant saying it), but i think it makes for a pretty good answer. And i like the guy. Devious >]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1449600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1449600.page GMT Re:Space Marine Vehicle Pilots
bikes are driven by assault marines from a battle company or by members of the 6th reserve company or the 8th reserve company (Insignium Astartes, The Black Library 2002)

Large independent formations of vehicles are crewed by members of the 6th and 7th reserve companies (Codex Ultramarines, Games Workshop 1995)

More recent rules publications and models seem to indicate that the mechanicum faction within each chapter has a more developed role within the armory. The adeptus mechanicus shoulder pad that comes with the space marine vehicle kit and the shoulder pad and armor style of sergeant chronus show a more permanent armory/mechanicum tie to tank commanders.

I could find no mention of who drives rhinos and razorbacks that have been permanently seconded to companies. But logically it would seem that a rigid adherent to the codex astartes wouldn't have a single free marine from any active battle company, and would have far too few members of the headquarters staff to operate the vehicles. That leaves either members of the reserve companies for the duty, or perhaps the background is being ret-conned to include a larger contingent of marines that have been permanently assigned to armory detail. These marines would be in charge of the maintainance and care of the vehicles, in addition to driving them in battle. The 6th and 7th reserve companies would therefore only drive armored vehicles in large brigade style deployments...

That makes the most sense to me when flipping through the various space marine background material.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1450221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1450221.page GMT Space Marine Vehicle Pilots
The earlier codices suggested that marines with a flair for tanks or flyers would be more or less permanently attached to units that operated those vehicles. Chronus seems to be an attempt to reconfirm that, rather than being a retcon.

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cadbren wrote:Even then it missed out the chaplain and there was also no librarian.


It missed out the Chaplain as it's easy to just add one(and adds nothing to ONLY the members of the Formation besides being 1 choice for Reserves/Deployment).

It "missed out" on Librarians because Librarians are part of the Librarium(novel idea that, eh?) and aren't part of any one Company.

The Dark Angels unofficial "Iron Wing" list that was popular in 3rd amongst the DA Mailing List took the idea that the Motor had its attendant Techmarines plus a group of non-Company marine drivers and really ran with it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1482312.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1482312.page GMT Space Marine Vehicle Pilots SM codex back then that had extra marines as pilots, crew on battle barges and so forth.

Blood Ravens have company librarians I'd think and given that the battle company box was such a large set, why not throw in that extra figure for a chaplain? Probably because then he'd be the only one without a quick means of getting into battle.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1482986.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286700/1482986.page GMT