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Sorceror
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Lash of Submission
=125

TROOPS 1
6 Noise Marines
-Aspiring Champion
-Power Fist
-Doom Siren
Rhino
-Combi-Melta
=220

TROOPS 2
6 Noise Marines
-5 sonic blasters
-Blast Master
=185

TROOPS 3
6 Noise Marines
-Aspiring Champion
-Power Fist
-Doom Siren
Rhino
-Combi-Melta
=220


HEAVY 1
Vindicator
=125

HEAVY 2
Vindicator
=125

1000points

Sorcerer joins one of the combat noise marine squads in a rhino and goes up popping smoke
Blast master squad hold own point
Vindicators combine with lash to be very killy]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451130.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451130.page GMT IMO are deamon princes better then sorcerors and they cost about the same too. Mount the fire support squad in a rino too and drop the kombi-weapons for the rinos.

I'd also say drop some of all that fancy equipment of urs and get some more men to flesh out ur ranks.

No need to hold ur own point with 200pts, get everything stuck in early and there will be no need to hold anything.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451400.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451400.page GMT
Combat NMs look ok, but just not a serious number of bodies for combat.

Shooty NM: I do not suggest mixing special weapons.

Vindis are ok, but quite SMurfy at the moment.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451513.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451513.page GMT
Noise marines are a shooting unit. They do not have the weight of numbers for combat so I'd drop the power fist.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451816.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451816.page GMT
Sorc is okay, for a few points more you could have a daemon prince.

I would recommend PW over PF for Noise Marines, due to higher initiative. And point saver.

Vindicators seem like a waste to me. There is only 1 dedicated shooting unit and the rest appears to be decked out for CC so why choose a heavy support that needs to be so close. I woud go with 2 defilers. They can move and shoot and are good support for your advancing rhinos. Defilers are anti-tank sponges as well, which gives your rhinos room to run free. Daemonic Possession means if its not immobilized or wrecked its going to be shooting and moving. Remove the other guns and add CC arms for added anti-tank or to tar pit a unit.

Are the combi-meltas on the rhinos worth the points? Will your rhinos survive to use them? Is there a need? I dont think so but ill leave that personal option up to you.

However, doom sirens, a great choice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451983.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1451983.page GMT DP over sorcerer. Lash Prince is 135, and a can opener if necessary.

Issue 2: I know 6 is the Slaaneshi fluffy number, but it just doesn't feel like enough in this instance.
I agree with PWs over PFs, if you really want the anti-tank, get meltabombs.

Issue 3: Combi-Meltas are great on paper, but they usually en up being nothing more than an extra hit point for a rhino at best. At worst they explode with the rest of the tank.

Issue 4: Daemonic Possession on the Vindicators if you are going to take them. You need it.

The good: Some people don't try to fit 3 point capping units in a 1k army list. I like to, and like that you do.

The best I could manage the list and not mutilate too much:

Lash Prince: 135

6 NM, AC, PW, Doom Siren, Rhino w/ Combi-Melta: 210

6 NM, AC, PW, Doom Siren, Rhino w/ Combi-Melta: 210

6 NM, 6 Sonic Blasters: 150

Vindicator w/ Daemonic Possession: 145

Vindicator w/ Daemonic Possession: 145

Total: 995

I'll tell you, the sonic blasters were kind of an add on, but giving the squad a blastmaster (what I wanted) and losing the sonic blasters would put you at 1005.

Dumbing the rhinos down to twin linked bolters would give you the points to give that 3rd squad a blastmaster, however, I dont like the squad not having a rhino.

Also, dropping the combi meltas to twin linked bolters would let you give the squads embarked inside meltabombs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1454876.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1454876.page GMT HQ choices. I really disagree with anyone saying "this is always best" because that simply isn't true. A sorcerer is not MC and can join a unit allowing you a greater measure of protection while also allowing more sorcerous powers and a force weapon. If you want a lone/paired MC that has eternal warrior and can crack open tanks take a DP. If you're going to stick with lash of submission(not sure I'd take just one if you go that route) a DP might be the better choice simply because it can move without a unit and still take a fair beating. A single dangerous MC in an army is a great target however and you may find those points disappear faster than if you took a sorc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1454973.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1454973.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1463184.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1463184.page GMT
Sorcerer, Mark of Slaanesh, Lash of Submission, Melta Bombs: 130

6 Noise Marines, Aspiring Champion, Power Fist, Doom Siren, Rhino: 210

7 Noise Marines, Aspiring Champion, Power Fist, Doom Siren, Rhino: 230

5 Noise Marines, Blastmaster: 140

Vindicator Daemonic Possession: 145

Vindicator Daemonic Possession: 145

1000 points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1466636.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286937/1466636.page GMT