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Does anyone know how to make your squad win an assault in the opponent's assault phase? This seems ideal. But it doesn't appear to be possible because if you don't beat them on the charge... why would you beat them in the next assault phase besides pure luck? Is there a way to hit soft on the charge and hit hard in the opponents assault phase?

Besides that I would like to know any other pointers for assaults that any of you may know. Thank you for your replies in advance.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1451566.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1451566.page GMT
That's one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1451570.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1451570.page GMT Oftentimes depending on the target you do not want to shoot before assaulting.

When setting up a multi-assault this is especially the case, one of my early games this is what happened:

set up in range to multi-assault a 5 man SM combat squad and a 10 man IG guard squad with my squad of 8 CSM berzerkers, I decided that since the odds of killing the SM with my bolter shots wasn't that great (8 bolt pistol shots) so even if 1 SM died they wouldn't take a morale check, well I shot too well and killed 2 SM, not a prob right? 9 leadership should be fine, well w/ combat tactics he chose to fail the morale test and run away, and now I couldn't assault the SM who were out of range, or the IG who were right next to me (can't assault a dif squad than what you shot). next turn the SM regrouped and the IG FRFSRF along with a pair of dakka preds back a bit and lost the whole squad of zerkers who were standing out in the open.

so be very, very careful first if you decide to shoot or not, and then which target you are shooting at.

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Charge a large unit of small things with the majority of your unit, and have one or two guys contact the big thing you want to kill. Like for example, charge in against the unit of gants, and send one model from your unit to contact the hive tyrant or whatever. Allocate everything you can--including your power fists/weapons--onto the gants to score overwhelming number of wounds. Then the tyrant will have to make a dozen "no retreat" saves and will be crippled or killed without you having to actually wound it directly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1452011.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1452011.page GMT
With flamers and shooting, if you kill to many units they will run and your assault unit is in the open ready to be shot to pieces. More often than not, for me anyways, i make sure my CC units get into CC. Even if they have guns, in CC they are safe from shooting, and im confident my guys can handle the CC.

Multi-assaults are a good way to get things done, especially with things like MC's. And as Flavius said, take advantage of Fearless units. They dont all back, but they take armor saves, and if you do it right, they can end up taking a lot of armor saves. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1452097.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1452097.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1452181.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1452181.page GMT A Rhino squad could go with an Assault squad in tandem,
alternatively, the Rhinos could leap frog forward (then I wouldn't consider Assault squads).

This is the Rhino rush tactics projected onto the 5th ed. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1456999.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/286955/1456999.page GMT