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HQ: Daemon Prince, wings+warptime "Alpha"

HQ: Daemon Prince, wings+warptime "Omega"

TRP: CSM x10, IoCG, Meltagun, Flamer

TRP: CSM x10, IoCG, Meltagun, Flamer

TRP: CSM x10, IoCG, Lascannon

TRP: Khorne Berzerkers x10, Skull champ+powerfist

Trans: Rhino

Trans: Rhino

HVY: Land Raider, Demonic possession

HVY: Predator, sponson mounted heavy bolters

5 points to spare.

Of course the zerks are going in the land raider, and the CSM without the meltagun will be on foot hiding behind all the vehicles and MCs, hopefully holding an objective of sorts or providing support for anyone that gets too deep. Maybe I'm mistaken, but Meltaguns are assault, and the rhinos have hatches, would I be able to move the rhino's and shoot a meltagun out of the hatch? assuming I haven't moved at top speed of course. The Icon's are cheap, and incredibly useful imo because regular csm don't have fearless.

Pick it apart! I'd love some useful input, also examples of armies I'd have trouble against. I maybe need more Lascannons for tank hunting. But the Daemon Princes w/ wings should be able to mow anything that would cause too much of an issue, and I think I have the man-power to take on armies with a gazillion models like orcs or nids.




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Maybe I should drop the Havok launcher and slap on x2 flamers and a meltagun on the weaponless squad? I liked the idea of daemonic possession LR shooting lascannons' heavy bolter's and a havok launcher. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1460013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1460013.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1462022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1462022.page GMT

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I've heard negative things about the Duel Daemon Princes, not much though, I'm just curious what would bring that much power to an army for around 150 points. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1465762.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1465762.page GMT LR's Havoc Lanucher, you'd gain back 25 points. Added with the 5 you had left over you could buy spare Meltaguns for your CSM troops.

If I were making this list, I would drop one squad of CSM (or reduce it in size/replace it with chose) in favor of using the points to beef up one, or both, of my DPs. I would run at least one with MoT and Wind of Chaos, and perhaps the other with Lash.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1468144.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1468144.page GMT MoT with Doombolt on them both seems pretty decent right? It's 60 points total and lets me assault 3, ap 3 attack space marines from a distance. With a four invuln save.


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I was also thinking of just turning the pred into a pred annihilator with just the TL Lascannon.

Second to that, I was thinking about just dropping it and putting 5 more troops on the ground based CSM squad, with a lascannon and a meltagun. I really think that would be some beefyness. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1469193.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1469193.page GMT MoT them because nothings as hilarious as dropping spawn. i dont highly recommend it but its worth looking at.

another idea worth looking at would be a 5 man chosen squad. you can 5 flamer, 5 melta, 5 plasma, or combo platter it. Tons of fun for 1 elites choice.

I like the theme though, I think its brilliant, if you'd like more destructive power at the risk of being instakilled you could consider chaos lords on mounts with Daemon Weapons or similarly spec'd sorcerer.

I would also throw in some personal icons and obliterators. Good for tank busting, fits the theme because they were tech priests.

the predator is a lie, id dump it like a clingy valley girl.

Lascannons are a lie, they're just a safety blanket for those with fears of land raiders, you may have your Binky but you still get spanked. plus you have plenty on your land raider

id drop the vehicle upgrades, you could almost cram another rhino in there for what youve spent. Possession is worth it 50-50, but the rest of it not so much. if you like your havok launchers then put em on the rhinos to make them a target. you get to fire em once or twice but your opponent makes the error of wasting fire on a dedicated transport.

And on a side note, these are just ideas, other than the pred and the upgrades, i dont see anything youre fielding that i don't/wouldn't ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1469501.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1469501.page GMT
CSM: Always get both special weapons, don't bother with them if you don't.
Zerkers are ok.
LR only really needs EA and hell no to the HL on it.
Pred looks ok...but you need more transport popping and so the AC/LC is what I would suggest there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1470032.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1470032.page GMT CSM squads heavy weaponry. But with the squad on foot, I was seriously considering beefing them up to 15 while dropping the pred. Heres the minor changes I was contemplating

Leave everything else the same. Drop all weapons off vehicles. Drop pred. (That leaves me 135 points to move around)

+ meltaguns to the half weaponed squads.

+Plasmagun, Lascannon, +5 more CSM all added to the squad on foot already.

Exactly 5 points left over after makeover.



Or Just leave everything the way it is, drop vehicle weaponry.

Turn the pred into a pred annihilator with just TL lascannon on top.

Add just Lascannon to last squad. and put x2 meltaguns on the two in transports.


Both are easily modifiable. The first gives me more troops, weapons for everyone, The second gives me a pred with TL lascannon instead of the Heavy Bolter sponsons. Both add weapons to my CSM, but It I still haven't put that last squad in a rhino, I'm really waiting to field them in a squad of 15 or 20 with an awesome mark next time I bump up the point value of my army.

That's my plan / future with this army. I wonder if the 135 points I have to move around is best spent this way. I wasn't so sure about putting marks on my Daemon Prices before upgrading all my weaponry with the CSM that's why I didn't do it.

Thanks for all the input! I'm getting somewhere with this army atm! I'm loving it. I currectly own 70% of these models. So It's getting there!


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Crapzilla, final option is dropping Havok and TL bolters, then adding sponson lascannons instead of the Sponson Heavy Bolters to the pred. That would be all I could afford though. No weaponry for the troops besides what they have right now]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1470540.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1470540.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1473503.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287510/1473503.page GMT