http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net BA codex, and have been thinking of adding a Baal pred to my shooty BA list.

Really, all the options have their place, but whats the best BAAl pred combo thats been tested and proven good?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1464827.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1464827.page GMT AC/HB one is going to function a lot like a typical dakka pred, the downside is that its pricy. I see the all Flamer variant being a waste. I think I am going to go with either AC/HF or Flamestorm/HB as they offer some versatility on their range. I'll let you know more when I can get a few test rounds in.

Cheers,
~Volkan]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466134.page GMT AC/LC might work now, as it can move to try and get a vehicle's side armor and still fire. Though the flamestorm seems like a good option for MEQ BBQ.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466168.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466168.page GMT AC/LC isnt an option for the Baal pred.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466208.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466208.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466213.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466213.page GMT HF will be kick ass. Might be overkill, but better to wipe out an entire squad then take out everyone but the melta gunner.

Assault cannon/heavy flamers are what im thinking will be best overall. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466225.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466225.page GMT I like the Flame storm/Heavy Bolter setup as I can lay down some fire support if nothing is in the immediate kill range or i can zoom up 12 and turn some infantry into charcoal.
I like the Assault Cannon/ Heavy Flamer variant for the same reasons. I can be highly mobile laying into targets with the Assault cannon and if something gets close i move 6 and I can drop 2 templates and the cannon into them.
The Assault Cannon/Heavy Bolter variant will probably perform like a more expensive dakka pred but it does put out more shots. The turret weapon is more reliable because of Twin Linking but its a lower stength.

Just my thoughts.
Cheers,
~Volkan]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466271.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466271.page GMT str 6 rending? TL rending. It will perform better than you think. Only 24" range, but very effective.

Did I mention it's a fast vehicle, too?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466333.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466333.page GMT HS brother.

Cheers,
~Volkan]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466347.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466347.page GMT TL Assault Cannon basically does just as much damage to AV12+ as 2 Lascannons). A Predator will be able to deal with monstrous creatures and light vehicles better than a Baal Predator. However, when they both move 12" they can only fire one gun and a TL Assault Cannon is way better than just one Lascannon or one Autocannon. Now, that still means that you can move 6" with a vanilla Predator and fire all of its weapons!

So, you could maybe not give the Baal Predator any sponson weapons and just strafe the enemy lines with a TL Assault Cannon while moving 12" a turn (I don't think that is worth it, though). Depending on what else is in your army I'm not too happy about letting my Baal Predator run up to enemy lines with any kind of flamers so that a power fist sergeant/tyranid monstrous creature/etc can run up and kill my pred. Plus, even if you did successfully flame a squad more than likely your side armor would be exposed.

So I guess I prefer to take a Baal Predator with TL Assault Cannon and Heavy Bolter Sponsons. It will mow down infantry while still remaining a threat to vehicles. However, I think I would only take a Baal Predator if I didn't need the anti-tank of the vanilla Pred.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466449.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466449.page GMT Regular pred = Heavy support

Points permitting you may enjoy both

Cheers,
~Volkan
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466476.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1466476.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1467205.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1467205.page GMT HB/AC). 490pts, but that's 4 Autocannon, 8 TL AC, and 12 HB shots. 4x FA 13, Fast vehicles. If you have a unit getting too close for comfort then just hit the big, red button and get 18" away. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1467299.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1467299.page GMT 3 las sponson autocannon turret preds and 3 asscannon turret flamer sponson baal preds. With razorback support it could be fairly vicious. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1467555.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1467555.page GMT
That means that there will likely be times that you have the flamestorm shot right where you want it, but you won't want to shoot the heavy flamers as well due to wound allocation shenanigans. Since i can't really see the need to add heavy bolters to a flametank, I think your most efficient tanks will be..

assault cannon/heavy bolter - light vehicle hunter with very good anti-infantry option

assault cannon/heavy flamer - anti-horde with light vehicle option

flamestorm cannon/no sponsons - pure anti-heavy infantry]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1467996.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1467996.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1468007.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1468007.page GMT AC Baal with either option or a flamestorm with HB. Sounds good to me. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1468166.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/287858/1468166.page GMT