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For those who have no clue what I'm talking about:

5x Noise Marines with 1 Blaster Master (S8 AP3 Blast, Pinning) in a Rhino with Havoc Launcher (S5 AP5 Blast)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/288090/1468386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/288090/1468386.page GMT CSM player that runs this exact combo. He runs a spear head of 3 of these and the rest of his arm runs behind them. At about the half up the table he stops and pops smoke and make a strong anvil/shooting base.

It works well for him]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/288090/1468398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/288090/1468398.page GMT
Personally I like using Havoc Launchers if I have the points. They're also one of the first things I look to cut if I'm short points.

I guess it depends on if you can count on AV11 surviving a couple of turns to get the shots off. I've had quite a few games where the troops get to where they need to be or the Rhino gets immobilized and the Rhinos kind of sat around shooting bolters at things. I've also had games where I've gotten the Havoc launchers and they made 3-4x their points back.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/288090/1468424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/288090/1468424.page GMT