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				<description><![CDATA[ After finding an amazing amount of success with him over the past few weeks, I have adjusted my army to incorporate Librarians more often. This was mainly brought about by the use of Null Zone more then anything. It has consistently led to a stronger and more killy list for my marines. My decision though brings me a bit of sadness, as I do love Chaplains, and am hard pressed to justify their replacing a captain in my list. If I am playing Orks or over Chaos Marines, I will definitely be taking him more, but other then that I will be just taking my Librarian.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:05:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I agree. Space Marine Librarians have some of the best powers in the game in terms of their utility and their synergy with Codex: Space Marine army list. <br /> <br /> That said, I wish they weren't so easily killed compared to Chaplains, Captains, and their Chaos Space Marine opposite numbers. Captains are the list easily killed, but aside from Command Squads and re-jigging the Force Organization Chart for a Biker army, they don't do much (I miss the days of Rites of Battle from regular Captains). Chaplains are a bit of a medium, and I like my Command Squads. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:13:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was so excited when I saw the name of this topic.  And then I saw the forum it was in . . . Sorry I can't contribute to the tactical talk on this one, however.  Maybe paint your Ultramarines red and use Mephiston?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:14:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Manchu]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The regular <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Librarian is a tremendously versatile unit with a few excellent power selections.  Null Zone and Avenger are capable of really messing up a variety of enemy units.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:22:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>JEB_Stuart wrote:</cite>After finding an amazing amount of success with him over the past few weeks, I have adjusted my army to incorporate Librarians more often. This was mainly brought about by the use of Null Zone more then anything. It has consistently led to a stronger and more killy list for my marines. My decision though brings me a bit of sadness, as I do love Chaplains, and am hard pressed to justify their replacing a captain in my list. If I am playing Orks or over Chaos Marines, I will definitely be taking him more, but other then that I will be just taking my Librarian.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> If you are not taking a biker chaplain (and not knowing the rest of your list), I would say simply replace your captain with Cassius.<br /> <br /> Cassius and a libby are solid <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> choices in a vanilla marine list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:33:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Manchu wrote:</cite>I was so excited when I saw the name of this topic.  And then I saw the forum it was in</div></blockquote>Bahaha! Amazing! Manchu, next time I am in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> area, I will stop by Richmond and treat you to a good bottle of Catholic whiskey!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:02:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Librarian also has the psychic hood which is always a good thing.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:17:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>I agree. Space Marine Librarians have some of the best powers in the game in terms of their utility and their synergy with Codex: Space Marine army list. <br /> <br /> That said, I wish they weren't so easily killed compared to Chaplains, Captains, and their Chaos Space Marine opposite numbers. Captains are the list easily killed, but aside from Command Squads and re-jigging the Force Organization Chart for a Biker army, they don't do much (I miss the days of Rites of Battle from regular Captains). Chaplains are a bit of a medium, and I like my Command Squads. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I played my 1st game with a loyalist army the other day.  Thought it would be really easy since I"m an experienced <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> player, but little things really threw me off.  Halfway through the game it came as quite a shock that Liberians only have 2 wounds to a Sorcerer's 3, and the Librarian has no invo save.  The funny part is I perils of the warped on double 1's, rolled a 6 twice in a row for my invo save, and then found out I don't have an invo save when I checked the book to see if I had one.  As a chaos player I really do envy psychic hoods, but losing a wound and an invo does suck.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:27:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ schadenfreude]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Having to pay 40 pts for a decent invuln save is initially pushed me away from using Librarians...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:33:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ JEB_Stuart]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Manchu wrote:</cite>I was so excited when I saw the name of this topic.  And then I saw the forum it was in . . . Sorry I can't contribute to the tactical talk on this one, however.  Maybe paint your Ultramarines red and use Mephiston?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> DO NOT TAKE THIS ADVICE.<br /> <br /> Play your army, and for the love of God, this game doesn't need anymore people switching to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>.<br /> <br /> <br /> As far as Librarians go, they are cheap, and putting them in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(519);'>TA</span> is a great idea, especially with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>. Null Zone is always amazing, and so is Avenger, Gate of Infinity, and some of the other powers are good too.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:08:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ kaptaink]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Put him in terminator armour and give him vortex of doom.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:23:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ cormz]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Or on a bike, for that 12" S10 AP1 wholesomeness.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:46:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Alright, I'm a convert!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Fox Knights Librarian Stargazer<br />  <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0"> Epistolary<br />  <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0"> Terminator Armor with Storm Shield<br />  <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0"> Quickining<br />  <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0"> Smite<br /> <br /> I used to have him with Quickining & Might of the Ancients, I decided to take Smite once and did quit well with it so its become a keeper. I'm considering switching Quickining for Might of the Ancients, becuse Qickining just isn't as useful when you have a shooting attack]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:02:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Fox Lord]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> lineup for psy stuff more than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>. Ability to grant invul saves and deny them to your opponent is amazing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:18:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Surtur]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ An Epistolary with Gate of Infinity and Force Dome, accompanying a unit of Sternguard or Terminators can be pretty fun. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:35:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nurglitch]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just a question, why would you give an epistolary force dome and put him with Termies?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:54:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ JEB_Stuart]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Because he doesn't need to stay with the Terminators. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:08:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nurglitch]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ True enough, but would it not make more sense to spend 40 points and give him a 2+/3+ and give him a different power instead?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:11:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ To my mind, no. Indeed, if he was just to get the Terminators around the field - say accompanying a Combat Squad of five Terminators with two Assault Cannons, then I'd remove the Epistolary upgrade, and save 50pts to put elsewhere in the army. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Apr 2010 04:19:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nurglitch]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm planning on fielding a librarian, but I still have no idea what build to give him. Honestly, Null Zone doesn't seem all that great to me. Most of the opponents I play really don't have invulnerable saves, so it seems kind of useless. My setup that I think I'm going is:<br /> Librarian<br /> +Epistolary<br /> Powers: Gate of Infinity, Avenger<br /> <br /> He teleports around with a tactical squad, and Avengers enemies while the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad Rapid-Fires. Good idea? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:37:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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