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Belial, Master of the Deathwing

Points: 220

WS/BS/S/T/W/I/A/LD/SV
6 /5 /4 /4 /4 /5 /3 /10 /2+

Wargear:
Terminator Armor
Iron Halo
Storm Bolter
Sword of Silence

Special Rules:
Master of the Deathwing
Fearless
Independent Character
Eternal Warrior
Rites of Battle
Deathwing Assault

Master of the Deathwing: Belial is the current Master of the Deathwing, leading the elite Dark Angels Deathwing into battle. An army containing Belial may take Assault Terminator or Terminators as Troops Choices.

One member of any one Terminator or Assault Terminator squad may be upgraded to a Terminator Apothecary at +20 points. The Apothecary is armed with a Narcethium and grants the Feel No Pain USR to his squad.

Another member of any one Terminator or Assault Terminator squad may be upgraded to carry the Deathwing Banner at +25 points. Any model in the same unit at the Banner Bearer receives an extra attack in close combat.

Deathwing Assault: As in Codex: Dark Angels. Grants this rule to any Terminator or Assault Terminator squad in the same army as Belial.

Rites of Battle: As in Codex: Dark Angels.

Options:
May replace Storm Bolter and Sword of Silence for a pair of Lightning Claws or a Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield for free.

Thoughts? Comments?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485185.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485185.page GMT Belial Revamped http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485528.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485528.page GMT Belial Revamped
Owain wrote:Eternal Warrior is definitely a must, but how do you justify the apothecary option?


It's realy is one of the options Belial can give to his terminators, I see no reasone to drop it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485679.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485679.page GMT Belial Revamped DW. Other than that I think that he should have the rule that exchanges "chapter tactics" to Stubborn or Fearless, stubborn being the rule that we had in our last codex which was basicly fearless.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485697.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485697.page GMT Belial Revamped http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485816.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1485816.page GMT Re:Belial Revamped
And yeah, I completely forgot about Chapter Tactics. Chapter Tactics should, as mentioned above, replace Combat Tactics with Stubborn (that feels like DA to me). I just wish that Cypher was in the Chaos Space Marine codex so we could give preferred enemy to a CSM army containing Cypher (presumably, they're all Fallen).

Also, I forgot to mention: the Sword of Silence is a Master Crafted Power Sword that hits at STR 5.

And as for the four wounds bit; this is the guy who stood up to Ghazzy and lived. I'm pretty sure only Commissar Yarrick has that honor (unless my brain is failing, which it probably is ATM). He's also in charge of one of the most elite Imperial fighting forces, so I gotta figure he's pretty tough.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1486686.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1486686.page GMT Re:Belial Revamped
First is the apothicary thing. Maybe change it to a single unit of terminators may upgrade to an apoth for 20 ponits. therefore its cool but not increadibly op with an army only consisting of FNP termies.

Also I think a cool change to leader of the deathwing would be:

Deathwing terminators:
Death wing terminators are outfitted for the mission at hand, to represent this deathwing terminator squads are neither assaut nor normal terminator squads. Instead a deathwing terminator may choice to be armed in one of the following ways. TH&SS 2LC or SB and PF. 1 of every 5 man exchange thier current equipment for HF CML or AC at C:SM cost

Cost not so sure tbh.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1487040.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1487040.page GMT Re:Belial Revamped DW termies is a good idea. Perhaps have the option to upgrade all Terminators into DW Termies if Belial is taken?

And the Apothecary can only go in 1 squad in the army. There should only be 1 apothecary per DW force; having multiple Termie squads, with 3+ storm shields and an apothecary is just insane. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1487794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1487794.page GMT Belial Revamped
Also I don't like the idea of changing the terminator squads. I'd want them to still mix weapons and stay at 5 man, possibly with the option to do 10 man.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1487816.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289232/1487816.page GMT