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Flesh Tearers
HQ
Gabriel Seth
Points 160

Honour Gaurd
Chapter Banner 30
Hand Flamer 30
Power Sword x2 30
Thunder Hammer 30
Razorback 55
Points 290

Elite
Sanguinary Priest x3
Melta bombs 15
Points 165

Sterngaurd Veterans 125
CombiFlamers x2
Razoeback 55
Points 190

Troops
Assualt Squad
Melta Gun 10
Thunder Hammer 30
Melta Bomb 5
Razorback 20
Points 183


Assualt Squad
Melta Gun 10
Thunder Hammer 30
Melta Bomb 5
Razorback 20
Points 183

Assualt Squad
Melta Gun 10
Thunder Hammer 30
Melta Bomb 5
Razorback 20
Points 183

Fast Attack
Baal Predator
Heavy Flamers
DozerBlade
Points 145

Total 1499
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Meh.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487384.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
I really can't see this army doing anything particularly well. Yuo have no ranged AT fire power to speak of, due to razorbacking your assault squads you've actually made the army pretty slow, and I can't even see you firing those heavy flamers at all.

Basically it seems reliant on your enemy being a slow advancing horde that stops about 13" away from you so you can roll up to him and flame him to bits. I can't see this army working in any other situation.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487404.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487404.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487424.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
Seriously you need long ranged AT and if you're planning on keeping the squads in the Razorbacks why are you blowing so many points on upgrading them?

Honestly this comes up against a proper razorback spam list and you will be tabled.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487444.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487444.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487452.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487452.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487462.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487462.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
X1Scotch1X wrote:Oh yeah I forgot to say I don't play competitive. I just play for fun. I never saw any reason to play competitive I find it to boring.


Good thing, with lists like this one! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487472.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487472.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487479.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487479.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487480.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487480.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487924.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1487924.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488440.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488440.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
For example, my Eldar list usually ends up having at least 5 S8 shots per turn. Not because I spam, but because it's literally the only option that makes sense on the vehicles/units I have.

After average shooting I'd probably have more than half of your army immobilized/wrecked/heavy flamers destroyed. With so few troops my banshees and scorpions would clean up the rest and it wouldn't be too fun for either of us. Go very fast with lots of vehicles or make the list slow with lots of bodies is my advice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488495.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488495.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P CC. Not good. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488545.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P


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How about if I took the Guard out and put in two Dreads with twin-linked las]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488617.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488617.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P AC/LC config and have points left over to pimp some other squads. Just a question, are you basing this list on models that you have? If you are, you might as well tell us what you have so we have a better idea of what we're working with.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488667.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488667.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488676.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488676.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488722.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488722.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
the meltabombs in the assault-razor are point waste
because the Hammer have more attacks against the tanks in combat.

and maybe think about it to take 1 assaultcannon on one razor to popup tanks]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488960.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1488960.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
Updated List
Flesh Tearers
HQ
Gabriel Seth

Points 160

Honour Gaurd
Chapter Banner 30
Power Sword x2 30
Thunder Hammer 30
Razorback 55
Assualt cannon/Las 35

Points 295

Elite
Sanguinary Priest x3

Points 150

Sterngaurd Veterans 125
Combi Flamers x 2
Razoeback 55
Assualt cannon/Las 35

Points 225

Troops
Assualt Squad
Melta Gun 10
Razorback 20

Points 128

Assualt Squad
Melta Gun 10
Razorback 20

Points 128

Assualt Squad
Melta Gun 10
Razorback 20

Points 128

Heavy Support
Vindicator

Points 145

Vindicator

Points 145

1500

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1489703.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1489703.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P str 10 large blast isn't going to do very well against hordes anyhow. Against vehicles it's literally hit or miss. So, you better keep some weighted dice around to facilitate your anti-vehicular needs otherwise you're not going to do much with those vindi's. The AC/LC Preds are better for less points, have longer range, and can fire 3 weapons opposed to 1 that's hit or miss.

Again, you're spending way to many points on that honor guard squad. You'd be better off taking something else, like an Assault Squad for less points. On top of being way cheaper they also give you a discount on the razorback they're sitting in. You would have a ton of points left over to spend elsewhere.

There's no such thing as a Assault Cannon/Lascannon. There's a Lascannon/Twin Plasmagun that you can take, however.

You have 15 troops at 1500 points. . .frankly, that's terrible. You'll never win an objective game. Your opponent will just sweep your troops and avoid everything else until the last few turns when they grab all the objectives and do a merry little victory dance.

I can see what you're trying to do. . .I think, but you're using the wrong army book to accomplish it. BA's are all about mobility and Assault striking power, and at that they excel. You're trying to turn them into a Nilla Marine list and it just isn't working. I would suggest using the standard SM codex for this list. You'll find it much more forgiving and you can cram more stuff into it because their vehicles are, overall, less expensive. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1489885.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1489885.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
I would suggest using the standard SM codex for this list.


I have to whole heartedly disagree, Vanilla marines suck at razorback spam. Space wolves would be a much better fit for this list the ultimate in space marine defences!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1489899.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1489899.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
All assault based.

Flesh Tearers
HQ
Gabriel Seth

Points 160

Elite
Sanguinary Priest x3

Points 150

Troops
Assualt Squad x8
Power Weapon 15
Land Raider Redeemer or Regular 250

Points 413

Assualt Squad x9
Melta Gun 10
Flamer 5
Rhino 15

Points 194

Assualt Squad x9
Melta Gun 10
Flamer 5
Rhino 15

Points 194

Heavy Support
Predator
AC/LC

Points 135

Predator
AC/LC

Points 135
1381

Not sure what else I should add. Was thinking of a Baal, Dev Squad, or Dread either Furioso or Reg
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1489973.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1489973.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P I hadn't even thought of that But, yes, I completely agree with you. The SW dex would be way better

@ Scotch
Looks better. I would recommend getter power weapons in those assault squads. If you get the charge off they'll be striking at str 5 ini 5 with the Sanguinary Priests buffing them. Don't forget, you can deep strike that LR.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490170.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490170.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
I would recommend getter power weapons in those assault squads. If you get the charge


They're in rhinos they'd never get the charge off...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490227.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490227.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P Just because he has rhinos doesn't mean he has to move them. . .I guess. Having assault squads that aren't going to assault is just silliness to me. This list is very Nilla, isn't it. Just use the Wolves codex. It will work so much better for what you're trying to do. If you plan on keeping this list I would suggest swapping the assault units in rhinos to Tac units is rhinos. At least that way you get a free flamer and missile launcher, and you can sit on an objective an collect dust. Or just take as many LR's as you can and then deepstrike on the enemy. . .hazza! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490302.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
Flesh Tearers
HQ
Gabriel Seth
Points 160

Elite
Sanguinary Priest x3
Points 150

Troops
Assualt Squad x 9
Melta Gun 10
Flamer 5
Land Raider 215
Points 394


Assualt Squad x 9
Melta Gun 10
Flamer 5
Land Raider 215
Points 394

Assualt Squad x 8
Melta Gun 10
Flamer 5
Land Raider 215
Points 378
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Just kidding they are good. And do you really need 2 land raiders? I mean they are good and will get you close to your targets but it is a big point sink and you don't have a lot of models on the board for point capture or what not.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490611.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490611.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
If yo're doing that here's my advice. get a 4th raider and drop all the assault squads down to minimum amounts. Or if you want to keep them full give them the same special weapon so they are not wasting fire. So go double melta, double melta and double falmer.

I'd also drop it down to 2 Sanguinary preists that would give you enough coverage and then you could throw a few powerfists around. I'm also not sure hwat seth is doing for you in tis list that a different cheaper HQ couldn;t do whilst allowing you to put a few upgraqdes on the LR (like MMs).

If you can't decide which LRs to take simple. Take 1 of each .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490728.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1490728.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1491302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1491302.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P BA last too - although noone replied to my post

I like the Land Raider list, although it's going to suck badly in some situations. I get slightly different points for your squads - they all seem to be undercosted. And, as has been pointed out, you can't have 2 special weapons unless the squads are full strength. I've found I could only get one squad up to full strength with 3 Land Raiders and 3 Sanguinary Priests, and only then by taking a cheap HQ (a Librarian, although I've never used one before).

You probably should stick with a Sanguinary Priest for each unit, as you'll need to separate your squads to take Objective etc, so you can't count on keeping 2 units under a single Priest's FNP 'bubble'.

I would suggest taking at least one Crusader, for the anti-infantry firepower. This can also carry more than 10 Marines. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1491710.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1491710.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
I took Seth because I just like the model and the rules. Just a General like of the model is why I have him in the army.

I am going to take out the extra Sang Priest. And equipped the Sergeants with powerfists.

What do you guys think I should do about my land raider dilemma.

The Units are under costs because the land raiders are dedicated transports. Meaning they are 35 points cheaper for Assault Marines.

And thank you for pointing the double special weapons I didn't notice. But now I am torn should I take Flamers or meltas?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1492832.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1492832.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
Redeemer's are good if you plan on using them as assault ramps. Because they have such good anti horde weapons and such short range you want to get in peoples faces with them and since you are already in their face you can then unload your marines then they can assault a squad that was already hit with the flamestorm cannon and what ever else you put on them.

However that being said if you continue with the squads of 5 you really arn't going to want to charge another squad because your units are more valuable per unit vs the other squad. Like say you charge a squad of 10 grey hunters. They are more then likely going to get their counter charge off and then you are only leveling what 4 attacks per assault marine. Say you both kill the same amount and level 2 wounds on each other. You now your squad is 3 men strong vs 7 and you are both striking at same initiative next round making it more then likely your squad is destroyed.

Now if you pick god fists then you are just sitting back and firing lascannon shots off and just using the marines inside to either cap points or just stay in their shell till the game is done. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1492931.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1492931.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
I want almost full sized squads so that they have the lasting ability. It is basically 30 marines.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1492992.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1492992.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P LR to make use of its lascannons for some anti armor or at least the range.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493018.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493018.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493019.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493019.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493027.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493027.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
What do you guys think?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493056.page GMT 1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493163.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1493163.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P
So my updated list is

Flesh Tearers
HQ
Gabriel Seth

Librarian

Elite
Sanguinary Priest x2

Troops
Assualt Squad x 9
Land Raider Redeemer 205

Assualt Squad x 9
Land Raider Redeemer 205

Assualt Squad x 8
Land Raider 215

Total
1461

What should I do with the 40 extra points?
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I always take a multi-melta on my Crusader, and it never hits anything. Your mileage may vary.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1494572.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1494572.page GMT Re:1500 Point BA List. (Pure Awesome) :P http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1494639.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289365/1494639.page GMT