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				<title>Do assaults require LOS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ A constant source of disagreement in my local gaming group is the question "do you need to have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> when you are assaulting a unit?'<br /> <br /> can you help sort this out]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:10:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Do assaults require LOS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You're not playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span>, assaults don't require <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:17:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ solkan]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Do assaults require LOS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ quite clearly states in the rules that you can move around impassible objects any distance up to 6 inches to get into base to base contact in order to assault.  Never says you need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> and requiring <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> would make no sense.  You are in a war, you walk around the corner of a building to find an enemy Unit standing there... You had no clue they were there... What do you do? Stand there and do an Irish jig? or assault them? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:39:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Do assaults require LOS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(298);'>AFAIK</span>, Solkan is correct, they do not require <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>.  The only requirement is that the unit is within 6" of the unit they are assaulting (not including units on upper floors or in buildings, those have separate rules if the assaulting figures are outside of a building).  I know that you can assault into ruins, but you must make a terrain test and assault at I1.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:40:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Dobbo - no one is with you on this one]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:46:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Do assaults require LOS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Or, to try to put this in words more helpful for a group which is playing both <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span>:<br /> <br /> In <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span>, a charge requires the charging unit to see the target because the rules say so on page 18, column two, middle paragraph.<br /> <br /> In <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, there is no corresponding requirement for line of sight anywhere.  The requirements for declaring an assault are half a column of text on page 33 of the rulebook, and anyone insisting that a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> requirement exists should be politely asked to point out where it is.<br /> <br /> And if your group is coming in from some other, more enlightened gaming system, there's still time to change.   <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:19:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ solkan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Catachan_Devil wrote:</cite>Dobbo - no one is with you on this one</div></blockquote><br /> That whether or not assaults require <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> it's a constant source of disagreement?<br /> <br /> I really don't think anyone outside his local gaming group is qualified to judge on that one...<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Yeah it doesn't say anywhere that you need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:40:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MekanobSamael]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>MekanobSamael wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Catachan_Devil wrote:</cite>Dobbo - no one is with you on this one</div></blockquote><br /> That whether or not assaults require <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> it's a constant source of disagreement?<br /> <br /> I really don't think anyone outside his local gaming group is qualified to judge on that one...<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Yeah it doesn't say anywhere that you need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> i am within his local gaming group - i am more than happy to advise him that he is wrong and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> is not required]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:02:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Catachan_Devil]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nothing says <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> is required in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(146);'>WH40K</span>. Why even make a poll when it's a simple rules question? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:41:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spetulhu]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Spetulhu wrote:</cite>Nothing says <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> is required in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(146);'>WH40K</span>. Why even make a poll when it's a simple rules question? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> its called denial    <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:15:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Catachan_Devil]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Do assaults require LOS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>visavismeyou wrote:</cite>quite clearly states in the rules that you can move around impassible objects any distance up to 6 inches to get into base to base contact in order to assault.  Never says you need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> and requiring <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> would make no sense.  You are in a war, you walk around the corner of a building to find an enemy Unit standing there... You had no clue they were there... What do you do? Stand there and do an Irish jig? or assault them? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> its quite clearly <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>RAW</span> that you dont need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>los</span> to charge...<br /> however, visavismeyou, its kind of besides the point for what your saying...<br /> there is already normal movement phase in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, assault is a specific movement to charge into combat...<br /> the way you put it makes it seem like you are always charging around hoping you run into an enemy if you cant see one already...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:19:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ krusty]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I mainly play assault armies so the no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> required helps me.  I can actually see both sides of the argument (if you cant see it you cant assault it makes sense) but agree that there is no specific requirement for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> in the rulebook.  <br /> <br /> As to your question Spetulhu...poll was made to check if there was something we were missing in our local group. Im not sure if your post added anything to the conversation but good on you for contributing. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Catachan_Devil wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>MekanobSamael wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Catachan_Devil wrote:</cite>Dobbo - no one is with you on this one</div></blockquote><br /> That whether or not assaults require <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> it's a constant source of disagreement?<br /> <br /> I really don't think anyone outside his local gaming group is qualified to judge on that one...<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Yeah it doesn't say anywhere that you need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> i am within his local gaming group - i am more than happy to advise him that he is wrong and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> is not required</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You are a tool devil...<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Bigdobbo]]></author>
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