<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Value of dozer blade / siege shield?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
Im painting up a Vindi now and think the model needs its monster steel tooth on the front to look its best

From a gaming perspective how valuable is the Dozer Blade / Siege Shield?

At 5 or 10 points, whats the difference?

That 10 points for Siege Sh could be a spare storm bolter dealing 2x St4 AP5 shots per turn instead -

Can I please get thoughts on use of this in gaming turns, even though it really looks kick a$$ on the model which in my book is reason enough]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1491699.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1491699.page GMT Re:Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1491722.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1491722.page GMT Re:Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1491759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1491759.page GMT Re:Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
unlike many other SM vehicles, if the Vindicator is immobilized it can't shoot things that arn't in front of it.

its short range also means it may have to move closer to the enemy to get a shot off.


besides it looks kinda lame without the blade.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492413.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492413.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492437.page GMT Re:Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492440.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492440.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? BA, in which case the Siege Shield is well worth the extra points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492498.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492498.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492502.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492502.page GMT Re:Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492543.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492543.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? GK player here...got to deliver the Termies...no seige shield for me...and at least extra armor comes stock]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492547.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1492547.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494353.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494353.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494414.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
Think the 5pts is worth it for dozer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494467.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? LR. When will you actually use it?

As mentioned before, at least the shield gives you an even greater ability to make sure that the fixed-arc party cannon will be able to keep things in said arc. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494637.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494637.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
That piddly little bolter killed a terminator thank you very much. Plus, once you get weapon destroyed. Mover through cover tankshock much?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494650.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1494650.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
having said that its the old story - those 10points have to compete against other priorities..
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^I'd take them just for that if I had points remaining.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495320.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495473.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495473.page GMT Re:Value of dozer blade / siege shield?

the way i roll, well, lets just say i should drop warhammer for craps.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495527.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield?

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Happygrunt wrote:Mover through cover tankshock much?

There's probably nothing more badass than going through a building to get at enemy troops. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495735.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495735.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
MekanobSamael wrote:For me, it's not an issue of statistics so much as it is of area control and mobility. Having a siege shield means being able to move through terrain with utter impunity. Most people will still bank on the fact that you don't want to move your tank into terrain if you don't have to. With a siege shield, you don't even have to consider it. Which is worth 5 points in my book.


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Happygrunt wrote:Mover through cover tankshock much?

There's probably nothing more badass than going through a building to get at enemy troops.


This. Having iron clad insurance that the vehicle WILL not be immobilized due to terrain opens up lots of possibilities and more importantly screws with your opponent's head. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495797.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1495797.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? IG. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1497827.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1497827.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1497864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1497864.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
Terminus wrote:Dozer blades are totally worth 5 points. It royally pisses me off that that idiot Cruddace made them 10 points for IG.


dozers are worth 5pts, but siege shields are not worth 10 when you can get the dozers for 5]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1498332.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1498332.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
so for a rookie, how do you use a dozer / siege shield to go through buildings on a vindi? guessing moving 12 into the building helps? can you bring the building down if for example its full of devestators?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1502158.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1502158.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
As for bringing down buildings, you can only do that if you and your opponent decided on an AV for it, and you're much better off shooting or meleeing it rather than ramming. So short version: no.


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if infantry can go in it then the vindicator can go in it(scary huh )

Drive your vindi into a building, poke its cannon out a window and claim a 3+ cover save from being nearly totally obscured.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1502699.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1502699.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1504791.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1504791.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? SM codex, according to that vindictors get a storm bolter as stadernd, loo at its wargear.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1506249.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1506249.page GMT Re:Value of dozer blade / siege shield?
rhinos can do this as well.

rhinos with 2 storm bolters are scary.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1506868.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1506868.page GMT Value of dozer blade / siege shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1508160.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/289666/1508160.page GMT