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				<description><![CDATA[ Need a good list with Hellebron.  These are the models I have.  Any thoughts?  <br /> <br /> Lord on Dragon<br /> Lord on Manticore<br /> 2 War Hydras<br /> 3 Chariots<br /> 24 Speaman with shield<br /> 8 Harpies<br /> 33 Black Ark Corairs<br /> 20 Black Guard<br /> 10 Shades<br /> 27 Crossbowmen<br /> 50 Witchelves<br /> 47 Executioners<br /> 2 Assassin<br /> 2 Sorceress<br /> Sorceress on Cold One<br /> 11 Cold One Knights<br /> One Dread lord on Cold One<br /> Cauldron of Blood 3 Hags<br /> 8 Dark Riders<br /> 1 Reaper Bolt Thrower <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:19:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Liokaiser]]></author>
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				<title>Dark elves 2250 with Crone Hellebron</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ any theme or strategy in particular you were looking for there, a lot to play with for a list<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Oooh kay, so i played around with an army list for you to try if you want to use Crone Hellbron as your lord.  This list I kinda went for a khainite theme while keeping some of the staple dark elf units <br /> <br /> Crone Hellebron -350<br /> <br /> Death hag - Cauldron - 200<br /> <br /> Sorcess, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 1, 2 dispell scroll- 150<br /> <br /> Assassin - ahw, rune of khaine, black lotus, touch of death- 151<br /> <br /> Core<br /> <br /> Witch Elves - 15, full command, Hag with manbane, banner of murder- 225<br /> <br /> Crossbowmen - 10 - 100 pts<br /> <br /> Crossbowmen - 10 - 100 pts<br /> <br /> Special<br /> <br /> Blackguard - 14, full command, std of hag graef, crimson death - 277 pts<br /> <br /> Shades - 5 w great weapon - 90 pts<br /> <br /> Shades - 5 w great weapon - 90 pts<br /> <br /> Executioners - 14 -  168 pts<br /> <br /> Rare<br /> <br /> Hydra - 175<br /> <br /> Hydra - 175<br /> <br /> <br /> You dont have any harpies or much in terms of dark riders so i put in 2 units of shades.    Hellebron needs to be deployed with the black guard unit because of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(474);'>ASF</span> banner, without it shes kinda toast.   The executioner unit gets the assassin for protection in case they get charged.  Might fiddle with the list later and toss in a unit of cold one knights though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:05:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Dark elves 2250 with Crone Hellebron</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well a Hellebron list is certainly different to build for.  Are you looking for a themed army with cult of khaine as a focus, or were you looking for a normal list that happens to have crone?<br /> <br /> Would you want to put her on manticore, or on foot?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:26:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ notabot187]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like your list Grimaldes, I might use it.  notabot187-I didn't want her to ride a Manticore.  I haven't had any luck with a Manticore.  They normally just get shot to death before I can do anything really.  I wanted to have multiple units of Witch Elves and hid her in one of them till I got into combat.  Possible 9 attacks coming at a strength 10 with her sword, sounds like fun to me.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Apr 2010 03:30:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Liokaiser]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Any thoughts on a list with my models.  I really want to use Hellebron for fun.  Anyway to have a Level 4 Wizard and Hellebron on the field?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:34:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Liokaiser]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Dark elves 2250 with Crone Hellebron</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I have to agree a Hellebron list is a nice change of pace.<br /> <br /> A few things about Grimaldus's list before you go to use it.<br /> <br /> Cauldron - may want to consider making it your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> since you don't have one (so many uses, lets you reroll those frenzy tests)<br /> <br /> Sorceress - currently is illegal you can't have 2 dispell scrolls anymore.  I would make her more offensive minded myself and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 but thats just me. (i would try to squeeze another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 in or perhaps a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 3 if possible).<br /> <br /> Assassin - not my favorite build but it can be effective just hope you kill whatever he's targeting.<br /> <br /> Witch Elves - 15 is way to small even with a 5+ ward.  You really need more of them if your running Hellebron (why else would you run her?)<br /> <br /> Xbows - good, small units can still put out enough fire.<br /> <br /> Blackguard - drop them for more witches and executioners<br /> <br /> Shades - drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, give them AHW if anything - you want them to strike before any warmachiene crew.<br /> <br /> Executioners - more of them, the witch elves will be competing for the CoB's attention, also unless you run the with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(474);'>ASF</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> a unit of 14 wont haven enough hitting power for their return attacks.<br /> <br /> Hydra - nothing wrong there.<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:45:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Casper]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Here's a list I came up with<br /> <br /> Crone Hellebron Hag Queen 350<br /> <br /> Supreme Sorccess Level 4 Shadow (Talisman of Preservation) 305<br /> <br /> Warrrios x30 Full Commanded Shields Razor Standard 257<br /> <br /> Crossbowmen x20  used in two ten man units  200<br /> <br /> Witch Elves x21 Banner of Murder 245<br /> <br /> Black Guard x20 Standard<br /> <br /> Harpies x6 66<br /> <br /> Hydra x2<br /> <br /> Cold One Chariot<br /> <br /> Total is 2232<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:58:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Liokaiser]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Dark elves 2250 with Crone Hellebron</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ah... why spearmen?<br /> <br /> Hellebron makes witches core. So... dump those spearmen for a second unit of witches!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:36:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Vulcan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I used the list that I posted and won.  My friend had an almost all mounted army.  Just one General on a Wyern and a Giant plus units of Boar, Spider and Wolf riders uniits.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Jan 2011 04:20:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Liokaiser]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Dark elves 2250 with Crone Hellebron</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I still think you need at least 2 units of witches to make Hellebron worth it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:36:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Casper]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Make one witch unit a 30+ strong horde while you're at it. Dark elves are great with their multi-attack frenzy hordes, and it fits with the Crone Hellebron theme.<br /> <br /> Also, nice idea to include Crone, she is pretty awesome, and not seen very often.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:44:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eldar Own]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Liokaiser wrote:</cite>Here's a list I came up with<br /> <br /> Crone Hellebron Hag Queen 350<br /> <br /> Supreme Sorccess Level 4 Shadow (Talisman of Preservation) 305<br /> <br /> Warrrios x30 Full Commanded Shields Razor Standard 257<br /> <br /> Crossbowmen x20  used in two ten man units  200<br /> <br /> Witch Elves x21 Banner of Murder 245<br /> <br /> Black Guard x20 Standard<br /> <br /> Harpies x6 66<br /> <br /> Hydra x2<br /> <br /> Cold One Chariot<br /> <br /> Total is 2232<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> As near as I can figure this list isn't quite legal.  Too many points spent on lords.  Banner on warriors is too expensive (25 pt limit)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:30:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ notabot187]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So there is no way to include Hellebron and a level 4 Wizard in a 2250 game?  :(  Why is a banner to expensive on the Wizard?  I should have run other unit of Witch Elves instead?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:16:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Liokaiser]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Dark elves 2250 with Crone Hellebron</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ At 2250, you have 562 points for Lords.<br /> <br /> Hellebron + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 3 is 575 so no its not possible.<br /> <br /> However 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2's is an option if you want magic.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:33:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Casper]]></author>
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