<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? LRC?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532117.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532343.page GMT Re:Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? de be almost worthless vs my mech tau). What I REALLY fear is someone who mixes both types and uses chaplain for re-rolling to hit against my fast moving vehicles.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532601.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532601.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
EVERYONE will fear a 7 man terminator unit with 7 hammers.

SOME people will fear a 7 man terminator unit with 7 claws.

sooo... take one of the top two.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532610.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532610.page GMT Re:Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
I like the mix of thunder hammers and LC though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532617.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532617.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? TH/SH 3 LC mix in my next game. Thanks for the input everyone!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532639.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1532639.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? th/ss, in an LRC is a decent threat to any opponent.
Fearlessness and rerolling to hit are big bonuses. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534769.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534769.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? TH/SS/LC squads in my BT army are pretty scary when combined with a chaplain w/ power fist. Even with the old crap shields, I find they roll through just about anybody. Oh and Furious Charge is awesome.

But just a squad with LC? nah, not that impressive since they can only overkill a big mob of normal infantry, and a 5++ is not all that great.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534852.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534852.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? eventually soften up the enemy unit.
LC's are not as impressive as th/ss. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534922.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534954.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534954.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534976.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534976.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
Crazy_Carnifex wrote:Between Trygons and Genestealers, not a scary unit.

Well, the Genestealers will not survive long enough to threaten the Chaplain/Termie combo.
Not sure what ****** are you playing. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1534982.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
wuestenfux wrote:
Crazy_Carnifex wrote:Between Trygons and Genestealers, not a scary unit.

Well, the Genestealers will not survive long enough to threaten the Chaplain/Termie combo.
Not sure what ****** are you playing.
Ninja'd by Wuesten.

Thunder Hammer Terminators are scary because they are so durable, and a Chaplain is icing on the cake. Lightning Claws fall short because you lose that 3++ durability, and you die just like regular Terminators. Like other posters have said, what's scarier is a Terminator squad that can mix TH/SS with shooting (Wolves, BT... DA if they had the right shield). Lightning Claws just kinda aren't.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1535027.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1535027.page GMT Re:Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? LC termies are only scary to certain armies and certain units. TH/SS termies are a menace to everyone. On days when the dice are on my side i've gutted out entire armies with just 5 of them and a chaplain.

Another good setup is take vulkan, spam melta and flamers which makes your entire army devastating and then to add insult to injury, vulkan rides with your 5 TH/SS termies and gives them each a reroll because of master crafted thunder hammers rule (he doesn't have to be with the unit since its an army wide rule. but he has 5 initiative and a relic blade so I usually stick him with the termies). Its a devastating hydra of a list that never stops spewing death. Anyone who says otherwise isn't being honest. 5 TH/SS termies can ruin anyones day, and they always pay for themselves and then some.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1535697.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1535697.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? TH/SS and 3 LC, Terminator Librarian with SS and Sanguinary Priest with Terminator armour and power sword? This is for my BA list so I thought furious charge would make the lightning claws a bit scarier?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1535723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1535723.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
My Tau would be equally slaughtered by a Tac Squad - so it's your points waste. I'll still shoot at them once you've gone through that unit.

My Orks aren't scared of anything.

As long as there's more than 10 of them...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1535798.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1535798.page GMT Re:Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? LC aren't that hot is because the purpose of the assault terminator squad is to attack the largest, clearest threat to your army. In my army that is their purpose, along with being a huge flashing target for your enemy. If you are spending the points which comes to about 590 in a stock list for termies, hq and LRC you are talking about probably a 3rd of your army riding in one unit.

To throw that squad, equipped with LC's at a boyz mob, where they will probably take at least 1 casualty if not more, it begins to undermine their purpose and cost. Against any army that goes at initiative four or higher, you are going to lose a lot of terminators before you can sway the battle in your favor. And you don't get the instant gib of the hammers, which makes them so good against multiple wound units. and or non-eternal warriors.

On the other hand you can probably kill an hq and send his retinue running in a turn or two with said squad, assuming you get the charge and still have enough TH/SS left to do some damage to another squad, and probably wipe them out, and so on, emperor willing. (another reason I like vulkan in the Close Combat termie squad is that his heavy flamer gets rerolls to wound, usually claiming 1 or 2 guys from the unit you intend to charge.)

LC are good at killing hordes but if I were the opposing general I would be more than pleased to see my opponent throwing his deadliest unit at a squad I hand picked to be cannon fodder. And the terminators with LC's are amazing at killing hordes, I've been on the receiving end of them. I've lost 16 guys in a turn to them. The problem for the LC termies is that then I use my nob bikers to countercharge, and then its curtains for the LC termies. Every unit has a counter, personally I use the Assault termies to counter the enemies killiest unit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1536796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1536796.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
wuestenfux wrote:
Crazy_Carnifex wrote:Between Trygons and Genestealers, not a scary unit.

Well, the Genestealers will not survive long enough to threaten the Chaplain/Termie combo.
Not sure what ****** are you playing.


Funny, last time somebody said that, my genestealers ended up ripping straight through half his army. What kind of ****** are you playing? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1537251.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1537251.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
wuestenfux wrote:
Crazy_Carnifex wrote:Between Trygons and Genestealers, not a scary unit.

Well, the Genestealers will not survive long enough to threaten the Chaplain/Termie combo.
Not sure what ****** are you playing.


Funny, last time somebody said that, my genestealers ended up ripping straight through half his army. What kind of ****** are you playing?

Well, the last time I played my vanilla mech Space Marines in an RTT.
The enemy had two Genestealer broods that outflanked while the rest approached normally.
I left enough space between the board edge and my units so that upon arrival they were targeted by a Tactical and two Dreads with heavy flamers.
Bye bye Genestealers. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1542005.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1542005.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? LCs used to be a good option when they had the option to take Furious Charge, but now that isn't an option (for most of us). 5++ is less than reliable, and initiative four leaves something to be desired with the way they are handing out stats nowadays.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1542123.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1542123.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? LR with 5 Assault termies and a bare chaplain. The Chappy, now that I have discovered he can, may quite often take digital weapons so he does slightly better, and for my assault termies I run 2 LC and 3 TH/SS. I got the termies second hand, but they've proved their worth enough times. In a multiplayer bash down at a GW 200 miles away from where I live, me and some SM newb fought chaos and nids. My termies disembarked from their LR, although the GW dude there came up with some crap about me not being allowed to assault out my LR... he started talking about something from the rulebook, and I was having too much fun to care, although it had something to do with my LR moving 8" and not 6". Malan'tai did his wound eating thing, and did nothing. I then got charged by a Trygon prime (who shot and failed against my termies) and I wounded the 'gon once or twice. The Doom suffered some wounds. I lost between 0 and 1 termie, I can't remember. Anyway, an alpha warrior had eventually joined the combat, and a turn or two later my termies were all dead. But so was the Doom, the Alpha and the Trygon was half dead (down to 3 wounds). Now, if I'd got the charge off on that trygon... goddamn GW..

Also, on a side note, Abaddon and termies had come down elsewhere during the game, and my ally with 8 normal termies, after having shoot the chaos termies, thought he shouldn't assault the termies. It took 5 minutes of saying, do you want to charge or be charged for him to actually assault abaddyboo and co.

But that's something for the battle reports section, so I shall shut up now :p

EDIT: Anyways, only take LC termie squads in a BT army. Either go all TH/SS or mix, and chappy is definitely necessary unless you have an all TH/SS vulcan squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1542297.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1542297.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
FoxPhoenix135 wrote:For about the same price, I take a 10 man Death Company with a couple power weapons, with a chaplain. This lets them reroll both to-hit and to-wound, while maintaining furious charge and striking first. Without Storm shields to save them, it isn't likely that enough terminators will survive to mount an effective attack back.


I was about to say that . Death Company does the work! Even better with the chappy]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1543882.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1543882.page GMT Re:Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? TH/SS & 2 LCs with a Termie Sanguinary Priest on a LRC more effective.
My default HQ is Astorath, so I've a 50/50 chance of Red Thirst. Str 7 LCs & Str 9 THs are fun... especially when whacking an opposing Land Raider or Dread. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1552990.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1552990.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? str 7 Lightning claws exactly? The max you can get is 5.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1553245.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1553245.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554024.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554024.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
Darkvoidof40k wrote:Wildcard101, how do you get str 7 Lightning claws exactly? The max you can get is 5.

Ooopsie! My bad... It is Str 5... Was thinking of the Dreadnought Blood Talons...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554036.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? TH/SS termies, because they can usually reduce them to nearly nothing before they even get a chance to strike back. But they're scared shitless of LC termies, because they can force my GKT to go down with them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554106.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary?
Fafnir wrote:My Grey Knights don't fear TH/SS termies, because they can usually reduce them to nearly nothing before they even get a chance to strike back. But they're scared shitless of LC termies, because they can force my GKT to go down with them.

:massed: :bolter: :fire:

Pop your raider and fire everything into you, or when you DS either shoot you with everything or pistol into CC.

Wait, you already know that. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554945.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? TH/SS over the lightning claws. GKT make short work of the former, but the latter is no pocketful of joy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554966.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1554966.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1556277.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1556277.page GMT Are Chaplains w/ Termy's Scary? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1556628.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/292251/1556628.page GMT