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Ahtman — GMT

A new law was passed that now makes drawings and animations of children count as child pornography. They were looking to the east with a furrowed brow at the time reports say.

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Shadowbrand — GMT

So basically you can get arrested for looking at Hentai?

lol

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Fateweaver — GMT

Apparently so.

Though that gaks too far out there for me to wrap my head around but whatever floats your boat I guess.

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MeanGreenStompa — GMT

Interesting.

Whilst I really hold a dislike of hentai, I wonder how they will make a distinction between an 18 year old big eyed, totally hairless and androgynous looking girl being sexed up and a 17 year old big eyed, totally hairless and ... well, you get the point.

All their female characters are designed to have similar features, geared towards a young look.

I think it will only be the extremely hardcore and unpleasant things they can charge on.

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Ahtman — GMT

Porn comics for those who are scared of real women will always still be an option, it will just be more limited in scope because ones in which the person receiving tentacles will have to at least appear to be of age. As long as beastie isn't rogering some teen or child it should be ok.

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VikingScott — GMT

I know this sound silly but i get this impresion from the op's post.
Does this mean children's shows contain cartoon children are also banned?

EDIT: never mind just used the op's link and discovered i am wrong

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Ahtman — GMT

No no no. For a long time there has been a legal grey area in regards to non-video/non-photographed children/underage. In other words if you took a photo that would get you 10 years in prison but drew it instead you would be fine. They are cracking down on drawn child pornagraphy, as they see it.

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ShumaGorath — GMT

I thought the england lolicon ban went through last year? It's just a silly reactionary banning to something with no real criminality because it "feels" good to ban. Go england.

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Ahtman — GMT

ShumaGorath wrote:I thought the england lolicon ban went through last year? It's just a silly reactionary banning to something with no real criminality because it "feels" good to ban. Go england.

I hadn't seen anything about it being passed last year but I know that multiple countries have been grappling with the issue of what to do about it.

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Fateweaver — GMT

Wow, I agree with Shuma......again.

Christ on a stick, I need to get my head examined.

Well, I guess we can't argue about EVERYTHING.

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Morathi's Darkest Sin — GMT

Aye tbh I think its more after the obvious CP art, rather than all of Hentai. I'm sure Loli fans are fecked though. Never could stand it myself though so no real issue.

Although I see what your saying MGS, some fo the stuff I watched when younger, such as Urotsukidoji and Bible Black, the characters are still in school. Not sure what age they are, think its japanese High School, so I imagine thats 17-19. So possibly on the line.

There was a anime fan site I belonged to about five years ago, which had some stuff in its Hentai section whihc made me request having my account Banned/deleted as I no longer wanting to be there. With age ranges of 9-14, that I would imagine is what this law is for.

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Albatross — GMT

ShumaGorath wrote:I thought the england lolicon ban went through last year? It's just a silly reactionary banning to something with no real criminality because it "feels" good to ban. Go england.

Well it doesn't affect me, so I'm not arsed. I can see why you would be upset if you're into that sort of thing though.

Don't worry Shuma, there's still plenty of normal porn out there for you to enjoy - it DOES mostly feature women over 18 years of age though. Hope you're OK with that.

Chin up, old chap.

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Gwar! — GMT

This doesn't actually matter. Anyone who knows what they are doing uses Truecrypt, then claims they were beaten by police and so suffered amnesia so cannot remember the password.

*Diclaimer: I am not one of those people, I just happen to use Truecrypt and all that jazz because I am a paranoid Bastard!

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KingCracker — GMT

Gwar! wrote:This doesn't actually matter. Anyone who knows what they are doing uses Truecrypt, then claims they were beaten by police and so suffered amnesia so cannot remember the password.

*Diclaimer: I am not one of those people, I just happen to use Truecrypt and all that jazz because I am a paranoid Bastard!

Sure GWAR, sure

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Wrexasaur — GMT

Albatross wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:I thought the england lolicon ban went through last year? It's just a silly reactionary banning to something with no real criminality because it "feels" good to ban. Go england.

Well it doesn't affect me, so I'm not arsed. I can see why you would be upset if you're into that sort of thing though.

Don't worry Shuma, there's still plenty of normal porn out there for you to enjoy - it DOES mostly feature women over 18 years of age though. Hope you're OK with that.

Chin up, old chap.

I find this pretty funny, mainly because none of this stuff remotely resembles reality. I have definitely seen some pretty sickening anime, that is clearly perverted, but a lot of it just goes over my head. I also know plenty of petite chicks that could pass for younger than 18, even well into their 20's.

Reality of Anime... like I said, over my head.

This one seems to work in reverse, where the reality looks younger than the comic. In general, it seems like a pretty blatant invasion of artistic depiction, that could open up some obvious loopholes for people with really loud opinions.

"Looks perverted to me... CENSOR IT!"

YMMV, but it is not a clear issue at all.

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Orlanth — GMT

Shadowbrand wrote:So basically you can get arrested for looking at Hentai?

lol

The 'underage' impression of Hentai comes from a long standing quirk in Japanese law which prohibits animators from depicting images of pubic hair. This law was intended to promote decency in mainstream animation long before Hentai was part of the culture.

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MorbidlyObeseMonkey — GMT

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait.

I thought the whole point of banning CP was to protect the children. So who are they protecting with this law, the imaginary, drawn children? Seriously, as long as perverts aren't harming anyone, let them do whatever they want. Seems so pointless compared to real issues going on in the world. Can someone tell me exactly what this law accomplishes?

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Wrexasaur — GMT

The idea runs along these lines:

1.) Thoughts can, and often do equate action

2.) Moral standards for England, all stem from one perspective. (noting again, that there are plenty of women that LOOK underage, and people are creeped out by it)

3.) Action must be taken, simply because there may be a connection that does harm children, namely referring to point 1.), wherein thoughts equate to action.

All incomplete logic if you ask me, mainly because the problems that this new law could cause, would seem to overwhelm any good a law may produce. There appear to be several (rather zealous IMHO) interest groups behind this, and they seem to have psychic powers, which can render animation into reality.

I blame the interest groups, they are obviously the cause of all this. Without them, there would be no problem in this area...

The amount of psychology at work here is absolutely mind-blowing.

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ShumaGorath — GMT

Albatross wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:I thought the england lolicon ban went through last year? It's just a silly reactionary banning to something with no real criminality because it "feels" good to ban. Go england.

Well it doesn't affect me, so I'm not arsed. I can see why you would be upset if you're into that sort of thing though.

Don't worry Shuma, there's still plenty of normal porn out there for you to enjoy - it DOES mostly feature women over 18 years of age though. Hope you're OK with that.

Chin up, old chap.

I just dislike arcane and pointless social laws. I live in america, this isn't cutting off my flow of giant baloon porn.

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Mortified Penguin — GMT

Wrexasaur wrote:The idea runs along these lines:

1.) Thoughts can, and often do equate action

2.) Moral standards for England, all stem from one perspective. (noting again, that there are plenty of women that LOOK underage, and people are creeped out by it)

3.) Action must be taken, simply because there may be a connection that does harm children, namely referring to point 1.), wherein thoughts equate to action.

All incomplete logic if you ask me, mainly because the problems that this new law could cause, would seem to overwhelm any good a law may produce. There appear to be several (rather zealous IMHO) interest groups behind this, and they seem to have psychic powers, which can render animation into reality.

I blame the interest groups, they are obviously the cause of all this. Without them, there would be no problem in this area...

The amount of psychology at work here is absolutely mind-blowing.

To summarize...

Won't someone PLEASE think of the children?

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Kilkrazy — GMT

Good!

The next step is to ban all drawings of violence and car crashes.

Or maybe we should draw some big piles of money instead, that would end the recession.

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Ahtman — GMT

I think we are on to something here...

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dogma — GMT

The moon bounce buildings are just around the inflatable, vinyl-coated-nylon corner.

Buckingham Palace, new and improved:

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Albatross — GMT

ShumaGorath wrote:
Albatross wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:I thought the england lolicon ban went through last year? It's just a silly reactionary banning to something with no real criminality because it "feels" good to ban. Go england.

Well it doesn't affect me, so I'm not arsed. I can see why you would be upset if you're into that sort of thing though.

Don't worry Shuma, there's still plenty of normal porn out there for you to enjoy - it DOES mostly feature women over 18 years of age though. Hope you're OK with that.

Chin up, old chap.

I just dislike arcane and pointless social laws. I live in america, this isn't cutting off my flow of giant baloon porn.

Exactly, you live in America. What the feth do you care? You're free to view cartoon child porn to your heart's content - fill your boots.

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Orky-Kowboy — GMT

ShumaGorath wrote:
I just dislike arcane and pointless social laws. I live in america, this isn't cutting off my flow of giant baloon porn.

Scared to ask, but... what is giant balloon porn?

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J.Black — GMT

Orky-Kowboy wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
I just dislike arcane and pointless social laws. I live in america, this isn't cutting off my flow of giant baloon porn.

Scared to ask, but... what is giant balloon porn?

It's kinda like this, but with less in the way of clothing.

Please note that i would file this under 'what were you thinking?!' rather than 'ooh hey! I'm hard'.

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Orky-Kowboy — GMT

What the hell? Friggin Japs!

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Pika_power — GMT

Lolicon is filed in the same category as gay porn for me. Not something I'd personally like to look at, but if people want to look at it in their spare time, in their own home, they should feel free.

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Soladrin — GMT

Mhm, in my opinion nothing good can come of this, I mean, how many pedo's might be keeping themselves in check using this stuff?

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Ahtman — GMT

Soladrin wrote:Mhm, in my opinion nothing good can come of this, I mean, how many pedo's might be keeping themselves in check using this stuff?

Almost none since it doesn't really work out like that.

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LuciusAR — GMT

So looking at those silly cartoon porn versions of The Simpsons or Disney characters that everyone has already seen and laughed at will now get you branded a pedophile?

Give me bloody strength. This has now become the modern day version of a witch hunt. Our law makers have far too much time on their hands.

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Ahtman — GMT

LuciusAR wrote:So looking at those silly cartoon porn versions of The Simpsons or Disney characters that everyone has already seen and laughed at will now get you branded a pedophile?

While that is true (the cartoons you speak of, not that everyone has seen them), I suppose some people may not find the humor in seeing depictions of an 8 year old being engaged in sex acts. Now Futurama where all the characters are adults....

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whatwhat — GMT

Oh no, so I can't depict children in sexual acts in cartoons anymore? That's a hammer blow, since that took up a whole 0% of my time before now.

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ShumaGorath — GMT

Ahtman wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Mhm, in my opinion nothing good can come of this, I mean, how many pedo's might be keeping themselves in check using this stuff?

Almost none since it doesn't really work out like that.

Actually there's a significant amount of precedent in psychological fields that tie the availability of pornographic material to a reduction in sexual crimes.

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Albatross — GMT

ShumaGorath wrote:
Ahtman wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Mhm, in my opinion nothing good can come of this, I mean, how many pedo's might be keeping themselves in check using this stuff?

Almost none since it doesn't really work out like that.

Actually there's a significant amount of precedent in psychological fields that tie the availability of pornographic material to a reduction in sexual crimes.

There have also been studies in other fields which say the opposite. Not that I necessarily agree, just playing devil's advocate.

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Ahtman — GMT

"Sexual crimes" is also very vague. Can you be more specific? Was there a study that specifically showed that giving kiddy porn to pedophiles kept them from acting out? Most of the research I've read shows that it at best temporarily slows it down, but can also feed into the urge to act as well. I know that porn has had the effect you describe in some research as you mentioned, but as for as pedophilia goes it doesn't follow.

Also what Albatross wrote.

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Pika_power — GMT

Killing people is illegal.

It has been shown that those who read about shooting up schools, play games like GTA and watch violent movies are more likely to commit murder.

Ergo, we should ban all cases of violence from the media.

What people might do because of viewing something has never been a concern beyond Restricted ratings. There is no reason not to treat lolicon the same way.