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				<description><![CDATA[ Thoughts?<br /> <br /> In my local environment I know that there will be: <br /> <br /> 2 Space Wolves with dual JOWWS<br /> 2 Horde Orks<br /> 1 Battle Wagon Spam<br /> 1 Tau Suit Spam<br /> 30 Assualt termie list<br /> 1 or 2 Leafblowers<br /> <br /> Tyranid Ard' Boyz 2010<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> 1 Trygon @ 200<br /> 1 Trygon @ 200<br /> 1 Trygon @ 200<br /> <br /> Elite:<br /> 3 Zoanthrope @ 180 pts <br /> 3 Hive Guard Brood @ 150 pts <br /> 3 Hive Guard Brood @ 150 pts	<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br /> Hive Tyrant[Scything Talons X2, Wings, Paroxysm, Psychic Scream] @ 230 pts<br /> Hive Tyrant[Scything Talons X2, Wings, Paroxysm, Psychic Scream] @ 230 pts  <br /> <br /> Troops: <br /> Tervigon[ Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst] @ 195 pts <br /> Tervigon[ Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst] @ 195 pts <br /> Tervigon[ Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst] @ 195 pts<br /> 25 Termagants @ 125pts <br /> 25 Termagants @ 125pts <br /> 25 Termagants @ 125pts <br /> <br /> <br /> 2500 Pts <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Consider some spores dude, leaf blowers own any thing on foot <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span><br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think that this is a very solid list vs leaf blower armies.  You will be giving up alot of kill points though.  <br /> <br /> I would lose the zoanthropes for a doom of malantai.<br /> <br /> I would also lose one of the flyrants for a genestealer mob of 10+ a broodlord.<br /> <br /> Just remember that you have a very good army for objectives, but 2 out of 3 scenarios at ard boys this year are kill points and victory points.  <br /> <br /> Your army will suffer for victory points for sure.  If I concentrated all of my firepower on your trygons, I could get 600 victory points from you in 1 or 2 turns.  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 18:35:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I wonder if you could jiggle some points around and get around 25 or 26 gargoyles.  Charge screen and cover saves for your hive tyrants would be vital so that they didn't disappear too fast.<br /> <br /> Also, I really like adding adrenals to my trygons, really kicks you over the hump on land raider killing.<br /> <br /> I think you could free up points just by running 30 gants instead of 75.  That could get you the adrenals and the two mid-sized gargoyle units.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 18:40:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @ Shep<br /> <br /> Thank you <br />  <br /> That's pretty sound advice.<br /> <br /> I was thinking about hiding the hive tyrants behind the trygons.<br /> <br /> I do have 90 gargoyles...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 18:50:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dave_Fay]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What flyrant model are you using, and are those old or new gargs?<br /> <br /> I'm actually pretty curious how "argument-free" their cover save would be from gargs.  Please let me know if it looks pretty good.  I'm not sure if I'm going to use metal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> tyrants or resin forgeworld tyrants yet.  And ease of cover save will be the determining factor.<br /> <br /> Nids have a lot of problems with undefined model shapes and sizes on their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span> and not a lot of ways to get cover saves for those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>.  And not having a save against missiles for 210 point or 230 point models is not a happy thought.  Especially at 2500 <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 18:57:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shep]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What happened to the 120 genestealers?  I liked that list!  :(<br /> <br /> Given the lack of Hive Commander, I'm guessing your Trygons are starting on the board?  If they weren't, I'd suggest clearing enough 'gants to make one Trygon a Prime, both for the burrowing Synapse and for the backfield Shadow in the Warp when he arrives.<br /> <br /> My only concern re: Gargoyles is synapse; Tyrants, screened or not, are fairly vulnerable targets.  If you have the model, you might consider swapping a Tyrant for the Parasite, if you want the gargoyles along.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 19:09:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Heavy Support:<br /> 1 Trygon @ 200<br /> 1 Trygon @ 200<br /> 1 Trygon @ 200<br /> <br /> Elite:<br /> 3 Zoanthrope @ 180 pts<br /> 3 Hive Guard Brood @ 150 pts<br /> 3 Hive Guard Brood @ 150 pts<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Hive Tyrant[Scything Talons X2, Wings, Paroxysm, Psychic Scream] @ 230 pts<br /> Hive Tyrant[Scything Talons X2, Wings, Paroxysm, Psychic Scream] @ 230 pts<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Tervigon[ Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst] @ 195 pts<br /> Tervigon[ Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst] @ 195 pts<br /> Tervigon[ Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst] @ 195 pts<br /> 10 Termagants @ 50pts<br /> 10 Termagants @ 50pts<br /> 10 Termagants @ 50pts<br /> <br /> Fast:<br /> 28 Gargoyle [Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs] @ 224<br /> <br /> 2499 PTS<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Does Blinding Poison work on shooting attacks?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 19:40:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dave_Fay]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I only clicked 'submit' once.<br /> <br /> Whats up with that?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 19:49:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Shep wrote:</cite>What flyrant model are you using, and are those old or new gargs?<br /> <br /> I'm actually pretty curious how "argument-free" their cover save would be from gargs.  Please let me know if it looks pretty good.  I'm not sure if I'm going to use metal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> tyrants or resin forgeworld tyrants yet.  And ease of cover save will be the determining factor.<br /> <br /> Nids have a lot of problems with undefined model shapes and sizes on their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span> and not a lot of ways to get cover saves for those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>.  And not having a save against missiles for 210 point or 230 point models is not a happy thought.  Especially at 2500 <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> For Ard Boyz I'm using the 2nd edition Tyrant with Wings Glued ON and the Old Gargoyles.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.omegahobbies.com/images/556_Hive_Tyrant.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.omegahobbies.com/images/556_Hive_Tyrant.jpg</a><br /> <br /> <a href="http://kofler.dot.at/40k/units/Tyranid_Gargoyles_%28Classic%29.gif" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://kofler.dot.at/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>/units/Tyranid_Gargoyles_%28Classic%29.gif</a> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Dave_Fay]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you know there are 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(416);'>JOTWW</span> players a Death Leaper could be the best thing possible for you to take.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 21:32:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not when they are each bringing 2 rune priests with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(416);'>JOTWW</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 21:45:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dave_Fay]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ C'mon Dave, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(416);'>JotWW</span> won't hurt that bad...  : )<br /> <br /> Honestly though, I love how all of our lists are mostly made to deal with one another. IE- Geoff fears your list, you fear Reece's and my list, and I fear Geoff and Shane's lists ect. <br /> <br /> Isn't this what 'Ard Boyz is all about?  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> I can't wait, the competition for this is going to be tough!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 23:38:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wolflord Patrick]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well?  How'd you do?  I'd love to hear batreps of that list.  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> ]]></description>
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