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				<description><![CDATA[ I have not seen the new Blood Angels codex yet, but I just want to know: fluffwise, how do they explain deepstriking landraiders, or other such land based vehicles? If it was with little retro-thrusters wouldn't they need to be modeled upon the tank for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(150);'>wysiwyg</span>? Please explain. <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thunderhawk transporter.<br /> <br /> As there is a standard Thunderhawk to carry marines and dreads from orbit, there is also the transport version, able to carry<br /> a Land Raider or 2 rhino-chassis based tanks.<br /> These vehicles existed in Epic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> / armageddon and also got rules in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span>.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So just to check, a thunderhawk swoops by and quick sets them down? <br /> <br /> So do the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> have more thunderhawks than other chapters, or should other marine chapters be allowed to do this?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 23:18:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ omg, Blood Angles is one of the only Codexes I don't own and its sounding stupider all the time.  Deep Striking Land Raiders!?  Then why doesn't every chapter have that?  Every Chapter has Thunderhawks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 23:28:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> seem to take more risk than others and nearly drop their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> instead of setting them gently to the ground.<br /> <br /> Why should they have more T-hawks? <br /> Usually any battlebarge would have enough T-hawks to carry a complete company into battle. The transport version is <br /> thougth to be rare, but maybe its just some refitting neccessary as T-hawks are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(179);'>STC</span> vehicles and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(179);'>STC</span> was meant for <br /> maximum flexibility. Still, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> could have a lot of T-hawks, as they are also neccessary to deepstrike jumppack-equipped marines.<br /> <br /> And yes, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> every chapter should be allowed to use their T-hawks. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 23:30:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well anyone can buy a Thunderhawk from Forge World but <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> can deep strike without representing the Thunderhawk I take it?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 23:31:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite>Well anyone can buy a Thunderhawk from Forge World but <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> can deep strike without representing the Thunderhawk I take it?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yup <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <br /> Plus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> get a Stormraven. <br /> And 0 pics of it.<br /> And no model.<br />  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 23:41:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>1hadhq wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite>Well anyone can buy a Thunderhawk from Forge World but <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> can deep strike without representing the Thunderhawk I take it?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yup <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <br /> Plus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> get a Stormraven. <br /> And 0 pics of it.<br /> And no model.<br />  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Lame; and what the hell is a StormRaven?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 23:45:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite><br /> <br /> Lame; and what the hell is a StormRaven?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <img src="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/unwieldysquid/1268193447524.jpg" border="0" />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 23:50:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite>Then why doesn't every chapter have that?  Every Chapter has Thunderhawks.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> But every Chapter hasn't just been updated...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 23:52:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Darth Bob wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite><br /> <br /> Lame; and what the hell is a StormRaven?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <img src="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/unwieldysquid/1268193447524.jpg" border="0" /></div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Would start <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> if this would be the official model.<br /> ....wait.... already did.  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Available methods of transport:<br /> <br /> - teleporter =&gt; Terminators<br /> - droppods =&gt; infantry and dreads<br /> <br /> - Stormbird ( pre heresy. ) bigger than the T-hawk<br /> - Thunderhawk ( was new at pre heresy, now standart vehicle ) carries squads, dreads or vehicles .<br />     May <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> jumppackers or landspeeders.<br /> - StormRaven ( new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> gunship, may carry a squad and a dread )<br /> - StormEagle ( seen in lists of content in upcoming Imperial armor books )<br /> - space marine landing craft ( epic armageddon ) may carry several vehicles and squads<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Any chapter CAN deep strike Land Raiders.<br /> <br /> Only Blood Angels are daft enough to actually DO it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Darth Bob wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite><br /> <br /> Lame; and what the hell is a StormRaven?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <img src="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/unwieldysquid/1268193447524.jpg" border="0" /></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> OMG!  we should all just give up now!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How long before somone actualy converts that?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 14 May 2010 02:26:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ After i finish the rest of my blood angles army, i am so going to do it, even if they release a model for it, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Honestly, if I had a spare Raider lying around, I soooo would. And I would most defenitely include Dante rockin out on his axe.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s are pretty damn tough, i coul imagine them just driving out of the strike cruisers and falling from orbit  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>themocaw wrote:</cite>Any chapter CAN deep strike Land Raiders.<br /> <br /> Only Blood Angels are daft enough to actually DO it.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I approve of this explanation, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span> <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Angry marine titan...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Corporal Redshirt wrote:</cite><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s are pretty damn tough, i coul imagine them just driving out of the strike cruisers and falling from orbit  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s may be tough, but that landing's gotta be rough on the squishy crew!   Just remember, it's not the fall that kills you...  It's the sudden stop at the end.<br /> <br /> Valete,<br /> <br /> JohnS]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't BAs only have like... 3 Thunderhawks total? And around 56 Land Raiders?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Fafnir wrote:</cite>Don't BAs only have like... 3 Thunderhawks total? And around 56 Land Raiders?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> They shuttle back and forth...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Darth Bob wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite><br /> <br /> Lame; and what the hell is a StormRaven?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <img src="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/unwieldysquid/1268193447524.jpg" border="0" /></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Wait, is the Storm Raven actually like a land raider? is it AV14 on all facings?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Lord Harrab wrote:</cite><br /> <br /> Wait, is the Storm Raven actually like a land raider? is it AV14 on all facings?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Nope. Its <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>Av</span> 12 on all facings. Immune to melta though. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The truth of the matter is...  Piss poor codex writing.<br /> <br /> Mr. Ward didn't want to give up anything more than he needed to to make a "divergent" chapter that really wasn't divergent at all.<br /> <br /> According to the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> codex, the BAs now have.<br /> <br /> The most jump troops<br /> The most Landraiders (you can take 15 in a standard force org.)<br /> The most Dreads<br /> The only chapter with Stormravens (until <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GKs</span> get them)<br /> The only guys smart enough to entomb Libbies in dreads.<br /> The most thunderhawks (you can <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> all 15 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> if you want)<br /> The only technology in the imperium to make the lumbering rhino as fast as an ork trukk with NO drawbacks.<br /> <br /> Screw you Matt Ward.  Screw you.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My sig offers the answer as to why the ba and sm codexes are so stupid.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Jayden63 wrote:</cite>The truth of the matter is...  Piss poor codex writing.<br /> <br /> Mr. Ward didn't want to give up anything more than he needed to to make a "divergent" chapter that really wasn't divergent at all.<br /> <br /> According to the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> codex, the BAs now have.<br /> <br /> The most jump troops<br /> The most Landraiders (you can take 15 in a standard force org.)<br /> The most Dreads<br /> The only chapter with Stormravens (until <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GKs</span> get them)<br /> The only guys smart enough to entomb Libbies in dreads.<br /> The most thunderhawks (you can <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> all 15 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> if you want)<br /> The only technology in the imperium to make the lumbering rhino as fast as an ork trukk with NO drawbacks.<br /> <br /> Screw you Matt Ward.  Screw you.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Alright, so what did they give up?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They Sure didn't give up having some of the coolest models.... <img src="/s/i/a/2ff985768408a7803eae783ca939b10f.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>ChaplainofAmon wrote:</cite>They Sure didn't give up having some of the coolest models.... <img src="/s/i/a/2ff985768408a7803eae783ca939b10f.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Keyword: some.<br /> <br /> I myself can't stand the nipples on 95% of the models.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ prety sure their rank and file don't have nipple armour.....do they?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Jayden63 wrote:</cite>The truth of the matter is...  Piss poor codex writing.<br /> <br /> Mr. Ward didn't want to give up anything more than he needed to to make a "divergent" chapter that really wasn't divergent at all.<br /> <br /> According to the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> codex, the BAs now have.<br /> <br /> The most jump troops<br /> The most Landraiders (you can take 15 in a standard force org.)<br /> The most Dreads<br /> The only chapter with Stormravens (until <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GKs</span> get them)<br /> The only guys smart enough to entomb Libbies in dreads.<br /> The most thunderhawks (you can <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> all 15 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> if you want)<br /> The only technology in the imperium to make the lumbering rhino as fast as an ork trukk with NO drawbacks.<br /> <br /> Screw you Matt Ward.  Screw you.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Alright, so what did they give up?</div></blockquote><br /> Blood Angels give up:<br /> <br /> Master of the Forge<br /> Combat Tactics<br /> Chapter Tactics<br /> Techmarines with Independent Character<br /> Ironclad Dreadnoughts (esp. Seismic Hammers)<br /> Venerable Dreadnoughts<br /> Cheap Rhino-based vehicles<br /> Thunderfire Cannons<br /> Increased Transport Capacity in Drop Pods and Land Raiders<br /> Cheap Thunder Hammers and Lightening Shields<br /> Dignity]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite>prety sure their rank and file don't have nipple armour.....do they?</div></blockquote><br /> They would if they could.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> was most likely planning to do it, then decided that it would cost too much money to add nipples to tactical marine armor.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nipples sell though...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Jayden63 wrote:</cite>The truth of the matter is...  Piss poor codex writing.<br /> <br /> Mr. Ward didn't want to give up anything more than he needed to to make a "divergent" chapter that really wasn't divergent at all.<br /> <br /> According to the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> codex, the BAs now have.<br /> <br /> The most jump troops<br /> The most Landraiders (you can take 15 in a standard force org.)<br /> The most Dreads<br /> The only chapter with Stormravens (until <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GKs</span> get them)<br /> The only guys smart enough to entomb Libbies in dreads.<br /> The most thunderhawks (you can <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> all 15 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> if you want)<br /> The only technology in the imperium to make the lumbering rhino as fast as an ork trukk with NO drawbacks.<br /> <br /> Screw you Matt Ward.  Screw you.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Alright, so what did they give up?</div></blockquote><br /> Blood Angels give up:<br /> <br /> <br /> Dignity</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>Lol</span>, at least they got nipples.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite>Alright, so what did they(Blood Angels) give up?</div></blockquote><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>Dignity</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I had to sig that.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>TheDiffidentOne wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>ChaplainofAmon wrote:</cite>They Sure didn't give up having some of the coolest models.... <img src="/s/i/a/2ff985768408a7803eae783ca939b10f.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Keyword: some.<br /> <br /> I myself can't stand the nipples on 95% of the models.  </div></blockquote>The whole army doesn't have nipple armor, people have to stop whining that the sanguinary guard and some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> have it.  Because those are the ONLY things that have it unless you yourself want to model it on your dreadnaughts somehow and the rest of your troops/elites/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>fa</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>hs</span>.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite>prety sure their rank and file don't have nipple armour.....do they?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What is the obsession that the dakka community has with being "freaked out" by nipple armour?<br /> <br /> <br /> Is this some byproduct of the forum communities collective emotional age being 10 years old, or simply latent homophobia?<br /> <br /> Christ, get over it...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span> GAMER wrote:</cite>What is the obsession that the dakka community has with being "freaked out" by nipple armour?<br /> <br /> <br /> Is this some byproduct of the forum communities collective emotional age being 10 years old, or simply latent homophobia?<br /> <br /> Christ, get over it...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'm not really freaked out by them, I just don't care for the look.  It's the same way as having so many little wolf skulls on my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(695);'>SWs</span>.  I just think it's a bit overdone, that's all.  <br /> <br /> Besides, it gives me a valid reason to return the mocking I catch for playing Elves in Spandex and Spehss Puppehs.   <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ pretty sure Wolf skulls are cooler than nipples...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite><br /> Blood Angels give up:<br /> <br /> Master of the Forge<br /> Techmarines with Independent Character</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Lots of the more "named" positions in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> and elite spots get renamed and slightly reworked with each codex.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BTs</span> don't have them either.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>Combat Tactics<br /> Chapter Tactics</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yet gained access to Feel no Pain and Furious Charge and still keep combat squad ability.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>Ironclad Dreadnoughts (esp. Seismic Hammers)<br /> Venerable Dreadnoughts</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yet gain, Furioso and Libby dreads.  Heaven forbid they loose AV13.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>Cheap Rhino-based vehicles</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> So, the 35 point discount from assault marines kinda equals out the "cheap" part.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>Thunderfire Cannons</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'll give you that, however, I've never actually seen one fielded ever.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>Increased Transport Capacity in Drop Pods and Land Raiders</div></blockquote><br /> The increase in transport capacity was a huge mistake in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> codex.  Had the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> kept the increased capacity, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> players would have marched on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> with torches and pitchforks.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>Cheap Thunder Hammers and Lightening Shields</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Five points per.  Not that big of a deal.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>Dignity</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You sir, win one internet.<br /> <br /> My list was based more on the changes in army structure and what "fluffwise" the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> can and cannot field.  Their chapter has suddenly had a huge influx of technology and transports.  Its all a little ridiculous when you look at the whole picture of how the chapter is now presented vs all the other chapters.<br /> <br /> Gameplay wise, 2000 points is still 2000 points.  Its not even possible to field 8 Landraiders, let alone 15. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ you guys missed some stuff.<br /> Blood Angels don't get/ they lost the ability to take:<br /> searchlights for free<br /> legion of the damned<br /> a company champion for 15 pts. They now cost 20 pts(you guys might not think that's a big deal, but that's 5 pts that could be spent on searchlights or a melta bomb)<br /> a more varied style of play<br /> Land speeder storm<br /> chapter master<br /> chaplain as an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> hellfire rounds for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Chapter master<br /> Orbital bombardment<br /> more backround<br /> less info on sm succesor chapters<br /> a galactic map showing chapter homeworlds<br /> more pics of models in successor chapters<br /> Note:Their chief librarian doesn't know every psychic abilty the chapter has at their disposal.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Munch Munch! wrote:</cite>you guys missed some stuff.<br /> Blood Angels don't get/ they lost the ability to take:<br /> searchlights for free<br /> legion of the damned<br /> a company champion for 15 pts. They now cost 20 pts(you guys might not think that's a big deal, but that's 5 pts that could be spent on searchlights or a melta bomb)<br /> a more varied style of play [see my points about Combat Tactics and Chapter Tactics]<br /> Land speeder storm<br /> chapter master [Command Dante and Chapter Master Seth cover this]<br /> chaplain as an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> [No, they have Chaplains in addition to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>, and Reclusiachs as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span>, which are Chaplains]<br /> hellfire rounds for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> [Captain Tycho has access to all types of Specialist Ammunition]<br /> Chapter master [You already mentioned this]<br /> Orbital bombardment [Included in the Chapter Master]<br /> more backround [irrelevant to the game]<br /> less info on sm succesor chapters [irrelevant to the game]<br /> a galactic map showing chapter homeworlds [irrelevant to the game]<br /> more pics of models in successor chapters [irrelevant to the game]<br /> Note:Their chief librarian doesn't know every psychic abilty the chapter has at their disposal.</div></blockquote><br /> My notes are in brackets.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Blood Angels don't get orbital bombardment though.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>HiveFleetGoliath wrote:</cite>Blood Angels don't get orbital bombardment though.</div></blockquote><br /> Sure they do, they just fire land raiders instead of missiles.<br /> <br /> Bombard them with tanks!!!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span> GAMER wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite>prety sure their rank and file don't have nipple armour.....do they?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What is the obsession that the dakka community has with being "freaked out" by nipple armour?<br /> <br /> <br /> Is this some byproduct of the forum communities collective emotional age being 10 years old, or simply latent homophobia?<br /> <br /> Christ, get over it...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What does homophobia have to do with it? People don't like the nipple armor because it looks amazingly stupid.<br /> <br /> It's <i>armor</i>. With <i>nipples</i>. Nobody has a problem with the many models that have nipples because they're barechested.<br /> <br /> All I've got to add to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> Land Raider discussion is that the Ultramarines apparently have 31 Thunderhawks, which would be split across their entire chapter. That Blood Angels can field 15 in a single battle seems a little odd, although not out of the realm of possibility I guess...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you read all the stories in the codex you will see that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> gave the imperium a Titan for free instead of keeping it for themselves.  Otherwise when they find new technology they hoarde it and keep all the secrets to themselves.  Baal is protected by dreadnoughts and apparently the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> have more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> than any othr chapter.  They refuse to give over the specs on the Baal pred and wont tell anybody how to make fast engines.  All of the fluff aside they can take <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> as transports because they have that many extra at their dispossal and they are not afraid to deepstrike them because once again there are plenty more in the garage back home.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 May 2010 15:30:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nobzey]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels Deepstriking Land Raider?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Deepstriking Land raider?!<br /> <br /> Seriously you have to draw the line somewhere]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 May 2010 17:32:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MinionOfDaCube]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Rube wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span> GAMER wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>KamikazeCanuck wrote:</cite>prety sure their rank and file don't have nipple armour.....do they?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What is the obsession that the dakka community has with being "freaked out" by nipple armour?<br /> <br /> <br /> Is this some byproduct of the forum communities collective emotional age being 10 years old, or simply latent homophobia?<br /> <br /> Christ, get over it...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What does homophobia have to do with it? People don't like the nipple armor because it looks amazingly stupid.<br /> <br /> It's <i>armor</i>. With <i>nipples</i>. Nobody has a problem with the many models that have nipples because they're barechested.<br /> <br /> All I've got to add to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> Land Raider discussion is that the Ultramarines apparently have 31 Thunderhawks, which would be split across their entire chapter. That Blood Angels can field 15 in a single battle seems a little odd, although not out of the realm of possibility I guess...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The Ultramarines only have 13 Landraiders for their whole chapter!!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 May 2010 19:26:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ KamikazeCanuck]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Jayden63 wrote:</cite><br /> <br /> So, the 35 point discount from assault marines kinda equals out the "cheap" part.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Vanilla Assault marines get free rhinos, so how does that equals out the "cheap" part.<br /> <br /> edit: quoting correct person]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 May 2010 19:46:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ frenrik:<br /> <br /> Please correct the attribution of that quote. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 May 2010 21:13:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thunderhawks suposedly bring them down mid battle]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:53:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wolf Priest Ranek]]></author>
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