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				<description><![CDATA[ This past weekend I ran into something that I would just like to hear more opinions about.   Could you consider the troll vomit attack as a breath weapon so that dragon knights would be immune to it?   My troll barfed all over this dude's dragon knights and he said the vomit was a breath weapon but I am not sure.   Eventually we just let me have the attack since I was losing anyway.   So what is it?   Breath attack or no?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 May 2010 12:30:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Troll vomit vs HE dragon knights</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Troll vomit is NOT a breath weapon attack. period.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 May 2010 12:57:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Breath weapon consists of the flame template. <br /> Troll vomit is not a breath weapon, its rules are clearly spelled out as an auto hit/ effect. It is not identified as a flame attack either. Dragon armor doesn't work against it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 May 2010 13:45:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I do not have the HE book available, but I believe Dragon Princes are immune to <i>flaming</i> attacks, not "breath weapons."   Not all breath weapons are flaming.<br /> <br /> Next time something like that comes up, ask to see the relevant entry in his rulebook.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 May 2010 15:01:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @Fellblade - Dragon Armor makes the wearer (and mount) immune to flaming AND breath attacks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 May 2010 15:03:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Troll vomit vs HE dragon knights</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It specifically says in the specific units entry whether or not its a breath attack....<br /> <br /> Ex. Troll Vomit : Instead of attacking normally, the whole unit of trolls can choose to vomit on the enemy. Each troll model in base contact with an enemy model inflicts one auto <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 5 hit with no armor saves allowed. These attacks are magical.<br /> Notice it says no where its a breath weapon, or flaming attack<br /> <br /> Ex. Black dragon<br /> Noxious Breath: The black dragon has a breath weapon attack......<br /> <br /> Ex. Hydra<br /> Fiery Breath: The war hydra has a flaming breath weapon attack.....<br /> <br /> Ex. Chaos Dragons<br /> Breath Weapons: Chaos dragons have two different breath weapons......<br /> <br /> Think i made the point i was after.<br /> <br /> I would also like to give a basic lesson on anatomy...<br /> <br /> The lungs are used to breathe, the stomach is a reservoir for food and digestion.<br /> <br /> In order for it to be a breath weapon it would have to go from the lungs, up the trachea, and out the mouth.<br /> <br /> In order to vomit, it would go out the stomach, up the esophagus, and then out the mouth.<br /> <br /> I would NOT consider vomit (which originates in the stomach) a breath attack.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 May 2010 20:47:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ShivanAngel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Troll King Throgg gets a breath attack from his Copious Vomit, but he can only use it once and he's available to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 May 2010 21:02:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nofasse 'Eadhunta]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:</cite>Troll King Throgg gets a breath attack from his Copious Vomit, but he can only use it once and he's available to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yes once per game throgg can vomit using the flame template as a breath weapon per the rules. RoW the dragon armor would prevent the attack. However RoI i would say it shouldnt.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 May 2010 21:15:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ShivanAngel]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Troll vomit vs HE dragon knights</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Not a breath weapon]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 May 2010 23:17:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ William Matthews]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The way to clear the 'logical' counterarguments:<br /> <br /> If you say troll vomit is a breath weapon because it comes from the mouth. Then a greatsword or lance is a hand weapon because it is held in the hand.<br /> <br /> Also breathing and puking are two different things we do, why should trolls be any different. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 May 2010 01:23:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Orlanth]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Orlanth wrote:</cite>Also breathing and puking are two different things we do, why should trolls be any different. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Because they're trolls.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 May 2010 06:09:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nofasse 'Eadhunta]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Orlanth wrote:</cite>Also breathing and puking are two different things we do, why should trolls be any different. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Because they're trolls.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> See basic anatomy lesson above!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 May 2010 06:42:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ShivanAngel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>ShivanAngel wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Orlanth wrote:</cite>Also breathing and puking are two different things we do, why should trolls be any different. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Because they're trolls.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> See basic anatomy lesson above!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What if they're Chaos Trolls, hm?!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 20 May 2010 04:18:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BorderCountess]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Manfred von Drakken wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>ShivanAngel wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Orlanth wrote:</cite>Also breathing and puking are two different things we do, why should trolls be any different. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Because they're trolls.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> See basic anatomy lesson above!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What if they're Chaos Trolls, hm?!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Pick a stomach]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 20 May 2010 05:59:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ShivanAngel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Another problem here is that the Dragon Armour doesn't make any sense. Why do dragon scales somehow make you immune to any and all breath weapons? I've stated my piece on Dragon Armour many a time, so I'll save it, but if I had a monster that vomited poisonous butterflies, I would be a little confused as to how some scaly armour offers 100% protection from them, just 'cause they use the same delivery system as so many gouts of flame.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 May 2010 17:15:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Warpsolution]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A wizard did it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 May 2010 03:35:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BorderCountess]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Which would be almost kind of legitimate, except that Dragon Armour is a mundane item. A form of alchemy. Psuedo-magic. It is completely and utterly counter-intuitive. If they said "Dragon Armour completely encases the wearer in an air-tight shell of super-hard dragon scales and magically supplies him with his own source of air to breathe" I would accept how he's immune to, say, a Black or Forest Dragon's breath weapon. But it isn't. He's wearing scales from a Fire-Breathing dragon (which is not immune to other types of breath weapons, or even it's own for some idiotic reason). So: bam. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 May 2010 19:39:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Warpsolution]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Okay, a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> rules-writer did it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 May 2010 02:40:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BorderCountess]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Which is complete malarkey, and we all know it. They make mistakes and typos, and they don't have an editing team to fix 'em.<br /> <br /> If "<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> said so" was a logical argument, then these forums are completely useless, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>RaW</span> would reign supreme.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 May 2010 22:15:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Warpsolution]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't understand what the argument is about anymore.  The rule as written is pretty clear.  Are we just arguing whether it makes sense or are we still arguing about the rule itself?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 May 2010 22:52:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Red_Zeke]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Warpsolution wrote:</cite>and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>RaW</span> would reign supreme.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You mean it doesn't? Have you looked at the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> side?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Red_Zeke wrote:</cite>I don't understand what the argument is about anymore.  The rule as written is pretty clear.  Are we just arguing whether it makes sense or are we still arguing about the rule itself?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Point taken.]]></description>
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