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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok first time posting a competitve list here. A buddy helped me build this. Any feedback would be appreciated.<br /> <br /> Librarian-Shield,Lance-100<br /> <br /> Librarian-Shield,Lance-100<br /> <br /> Honor Guard-4x Plasma Guns-175<br /> Razorback-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Flamer-55<br /> <br /> Honor Guard-4x Plasma Guns-175<br /> Razorback-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Flamer-55<br /> <br /> Assault Squad- Melta Gun, Sgt w/ Infernus Pistol-125<br /> Razorback-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Flamer-20<br /> <br /> Assault Squad- Melta Gun, Sgt w/ Infernus Pistol-125<br /> Razorback-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Flamer-20<br /> <br /> Assault Squad- Melta Gun, Sgt w/ Infernus Pistol-125<br /> Razorback-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Flamer-20<br /> <br /> Assault Squad- Melta Gun, Sgt w/ Infernus Pistol-125<br /> Razorback-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Flamer-20<br /> <br /> Assault Squad- Melta Gun, Sgt w/ Infernus Pistol-125<br /> Razorback-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Flamer-20<br /> <br /> Baal Predator-Twin-Linked Assault Cannon-115<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(259);'>LMK</span> What you think. Thanks!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 May 2010 01:44:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The10thnazgul]]></author>
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				<title>BA 1500 Competitve Razorspam List-Need Feed Back</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ seems light on anti tank.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 May 2010 04:52:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ RexFTW]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ make some of those heavy flamers <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> lascannons]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 May 2010 05:15:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ WingsofCadia]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would change the loadout of three of the razors, don't know if you would have to drop anything or not, though changing 3 of them to assault cannons would help you out alot, or las/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>. I don't feel like finding my friend's codex.<br /> <br /> <br /> Rock hard list though, I like it!  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 May 2010 06:38:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Inquisitor_Syphonious]]></author>
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				<title>BA 1500 Competitve Razorspam List-Need Feed Back</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>RexFTW wrote:</cite>seems light on anti tank.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 10 melta guns, 8 Plasmas, and 2 lances disagree. I am short on Longrange anti-tank though but all my vehicles are fast.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>WingsofCadia wrote:</cite>make some of those heavy flamers <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> lascannons</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The Problem with this is that Im tempted to drive 12" to shoot when Ishould be driving 18 to get to the enemy then I can drive 12 to ride circles round them. <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:</cite>I would change the loadout of three of the razors, don't know if you would have to drop anything or not, though changing 3 of them to assault cannons would help you out alot, or las/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>. I don't feel like finding my friend's codex.<br /> <br /> <br /> Rock hard list though, I like it!  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Same problem I have with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannons. I could by dropping the Baal (I only put in becuase I still had 115 points to spend) but I feel that be diluting the list. <br /> <br /> I was thinking of dropping one of the troops to put in another Baal predator and give them both EA so they can scout up, cause problems and with EA always be on the move. That or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> drop an Honor guard unit, put in another Baal and a Furioso in a Drop pod though I dont like that idea if I plan to reserve my army.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 May 2010 15:06:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The10thnazgul]]></author>
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				<title>Re:BA 1500 First Competitve List-Need Feed Back</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Any other ideas anybody?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 18:44:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The10thnazgul]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, the army has almost no anti-tank and it lacks fire support <br /> (i.e., silencing guns while your tanks approach the enemy). <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 19:09:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<title>Re:BA 1500 First Competitve List-Need Feed Back</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <img src="/s/i/a/934fe4f0c85983a716e6680a72065e99.gif" border="0"> I think the min sized squads you are running are going to be this lists Achilles heel, razorbacks are great but their transport capacity and armor are on the low end and because of this anti <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> fire power is going to just pick up your 4 and 5 man units.  Well built guard and tyranid lists are going to tear you to pieces at range and Ork lists are going to have so many models you won't be able to stand up in an assault.  However, I do like the concept behind this army you are giving them a lot to fire at and a lot to consider as far as target priority. Take this with a grain of slat as it is all conjecture I have never played a list quite like this one before.<br /> <br /> I would say try condensing at least a couple of the squads take them in a better armored transport i.e. a Lanraider variant or a storm raven.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 19:16:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zhetsuken]]></author>
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				<title>Re:BA 1500 First Competitve List-Need Feed Back</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You have mentioned that your speed and ability to put out large amounts of fire at close range will carry the day...I don't know how many min/max lists you have run into; however, many will make yours seem like Nabisco Shredded Wheat when they are done.<br /> <br /> The big issues are this:<br /> <br /> 1) Everything is dependent on being within ~12" if not closer to be effective.<br /> 2) While the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>raw</span> numbers approach seems valid...you're going somewhat in the wrong direction.<br /> <br /> I understand you don't want to waste your time moving 12 and then shooting a weapon when you can be moving 18" and so on; however, being that close to some enemies and having nothing but a slew of melta and plasma coming to bear is rather underwhelming. You'll find that even with the shield and smoke and cover save shenanigans, MAYBE half of those Razorbacks will make it to your opponents lines in turn 2 if they know what they're doing. Additionally, they'll probably move in such a way as do deny your Melta and assault ranges. Preventing them from doing so is imperative. If that means taking a few Las or Assault Cannon Razorbacks, so be it. You'll need that heavier firepower. Especially against Tyranids and most mechanized forces.<br /> <br /> To be honest...I would probably toss 1 or 2 squads of Honor guard to achieve this. Additionally, I would make use of the Sanguinary Priests as they make your Marines Beastly both in and out of combat. This would not only give you a nasty shooty threat but also a punch in the face no one really wants to take.<br /> <br /> Just some thoughts and observations. Best wishes.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 25 May 2010 02:01:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Unholy_Martyr]]></author>
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