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				<description><![CDATA[ Here are the two lists I am considering<br /> <br /> List 1:<br /> <br /> Astorath the grim 220 <br /> <br /> Troops: <br /> <br /> 5x Death Company 2xPF 1xPw 165 Points <br /> <br /> Land Raider Redeemer with Extra Armor 255 points <br /> <br /> 5x Death Company 2xPF 1xPw 165 Points <br /> <br /> Land Raider Redeemer with Extra Armor 255 points <br /> <br /> 10x Assault Marines Sergent w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> 215 Points<br /> <br /> Land Raider with extra armor 265 Points <br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> <br /> Baal Pred FSC Heavy flamer sponsons and extra armor 155<br /> <br /> Baal Pred FSC Heavy flamer sponsons and extra armor 155<br /> <br /> Total 1850 <br /> <br /> List 2:<br /> <br /> Astorath the grim 220 <br /> <br /> Troops: <br /> <br /> 10x Death Company 7xPw 305 Points <br /> <br /> Land Raider Redeemer with Extra Armor 255 points <br /> <br /> 10x Death Company 7xPw 305 Points <br /> <br /> Land Raider Redeemer with Extra Armor 255 points <br /> <br /> 10x Assault Marines w/2xMeltaguns Sergent w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>Pw</span> 225 <br /> <br /> Land Raider with extra armor 265 Points <br /> <br /> Total 1845]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 18:50:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zhetsuken]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The 2nd list with 14 power weapons is overkill.<br /> I'd go with the first list but would drop the Storm Raven and add 2 Baal Predators. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 19:00:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>wuestenfux wrote:</cite>The 2nd list with 14 power weapons is overkill.<br /> I'd go with the first list but would drop the Storm Raven and add 2 Baal Predators. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What else would I cut in order to get the second Baal pred, they are 115 points base with zero upgrades and the storm raven only frees up 215.  Although I like the idea I am just not sure how I would accommodate it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 19:04:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zhetsuken]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, I think you could drop some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> members.<br /> However, each <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> unit should have a power fist just in case the squad comes across a Dread. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 19:06:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels 1850</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Changed the first list to accomodate 2 Baal preds, now what do you think?  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 19:29:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zhetsuken]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the first mostly but I completely dislike the combo Astorath + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> + normal Assault marines.<br /> <br /> In my mind if you choose for the Astorath path you should marry the full <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> phylosophy. I mean this way you'll have really one target in mind with a full-army builded on this subject.<br /> If you mix it with something totally out of style a sage enemy will concentre all the fire on the regular Assault sq., of course he will have to face 2 good <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> sq. in the face the turn after but you will never have enough body to reach the win for annihilation at this point.<br /> <br /> Do you see what I mean?<br /> <br /> Otherwise there is the cheaper and still very effective list with 3 Assault Marines+Apothecarys <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> embarked with 4+ Preds (Baals and regular) all around.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 19:58:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Toban]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels 1850</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Toban: I am not sure what you mean by the full <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> philosophy are we talking the 30 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> death star idea?  Originally the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> units were 10 man I cut them down to make room for the twin baal preds.  I think you are completely wrong    about Anihillation for this army, I have 9 kill points total which is a great deal less than pretty much any other army I am going to come across under normal conditions they are going to have to table me to win. However, when it comes to point capture I am at a huge disadvantage as all I can really do is hope to table my enemy or go for a draw.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 20:15:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zhetsuken]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sry, my English isn't alwais good enough to let the people understand what I mean.<br /> <br /> Astorath give you the possibility to build up an army list full of Death Company elements.<br /> This exception to the normals <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> rules work thanks to the Annihilated! rule from the big book.<br /> <br /> This mean that even if you don't have "scoring units" you can win just because you've tabled your opponent.<br /> <br /> When I say "marry the Astorath path" is to really choose this way, a full Death Company army list.<br /> <br /> Mixing one "regular" Assault Marines sq. in it sounds not only out of style but even unproductive.<br /> <br /> Do you see what I mean now?<br /> Excuse me again for my scholar and alwais full of mistake English.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 May 2010 20:33:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Toban]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Predators don't really need extra armor. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 25 May 2010 06:11:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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