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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> Mech <br /> <br /> Biker Boss<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -Attack Squig<br /> -Cybork Body<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 20x Sluggas <br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> <br /> 20x Sluggas  <br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> <br /> 9x Nob Bikers <br /> 1xPain Boy<br /> 4x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>Pks</span><br /> 5x Big Choppas<br /> Diversified:<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> / <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Shoota / Cybork Bodies<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> / Kombi Scorcha / Cybork Bodies<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> / Stikk Bombz / Cybork Bodies<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> / Cybork Bodies<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(389);'>BC</span> / <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Shoota / Cybork Bodies<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(389);'>BC</span> / Kombi Scorcha / Cybork Bodies<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(389);'>BC</span> / Ammo Runt / Cybork Bodies<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(389);'>BC</span> / Stikk Bombz / Cybork Bodies<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(389);'>BC</span> / Cybork Bodies <br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Deff Kopta <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rockets<br /> -Buzz Saw<br /> <br /> Deff Kopta <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rockets<br /> -Buzz Saw<br /> <br /> Deff Kopta <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rockets<br /> -Buzz Saw<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 13x Burnas<br /> <br /> Heavy:<br /> Battlewagon      &lt;---------------13x Burna Boyz<br /> -Deff Rolla<br /> -2x Big Shootas<br /> -Red Paint<br /> <br /> <br /> Battlewagon     &lt;----------------20x Sluggas<br /> -Deff Rolla<br /> -2x Big Shootas<br /> -Red Paint<br /> <br /> Battlewagon      &lt;----------------20x Sluggas<br /> -Deff Rolla<br /> -2x Big Shootas<br /> -Red Paint<br /> <br /> Total:1990<br /> <br /> I think this list would be pretty fun to play.  Most of my gaming consists of annihilate.  We rarely play objective games and if we do, our armies end up killing each other off by the end of the game anyway.  So when I build a list, I want to be able to kill off the majority of their army without worrying about scoring objectives.  <br /> <br /> Let me know what you guys think.   ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:05:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Stikkbombs are trash.  Get ammo runts instead.  You also need a Waaagh Banner and Bosspole!  I'd only run 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>'s as well.<br /> <br /> I would kit out your battlewagons differently as well.  You don't need 2 Big Shootas on your wagons, as you should be moving too fast to fire them.  Check out the Ork Tactica Pt. 3.<br /> <br /> I like Battlewagons w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>, Deff Rolla, Big Shoota, Armor Plates, and a Boarding Plank.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:49:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Claypool]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I actually quite like this list.<br /> <br /> Cut some points from the extra big shootas, and from the biker nobs, and fill up the rest of the wagon with burnas<br /> <br /> You can diversify them cheaper:<br /> <br /> Nob 1: Painboy <br /> Nob 2: Bosspole <br /> Nob 3: Waaaugh! Banner<br /> Nob 4: Powerklaw <br /> Nob 5: Powerklaw + Kombi-Rokkit <br /> Nob 6: Powerklaw + Kombi-Rokkit + Ammo Runt <br /> Nob 7: Big Choppa <br /> Nob 8: Big Choppa + Kombi-Rokkit <br /> Nob 9: Big Choppa + Kombi-Rokkit + Ammo Runt]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Unless you really have a thing for the cybork bodies, I don't think they are needed for biker nobs.  As it stands, you'll have a 4+ armor save, a 4+ cover save and a 4+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span>.  The only thing that you really have to look out for are flamers and power weapons, and if you run into those, let the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(389);'>BC</span> nobs take one for the team.<br /> <br /> So, what I would do is drop cybork from the nobs and boss, add 2 more burnas to your wagon.  I also agree that a Waaagh! banner is needed.  Having your orks hit on 3+ most of the time is the bees knees.  <br /> <br /> My only other suggestion would be to try to work in at least one (preferably two) small groups of lootas.  They are amazing at popping light armor/transports and will let your bikers/boys get to krumpin' the squishy bits that much quicker.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:23:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ zatchmo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Isn't cybork almost required whenever they fight a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> specialist? (i.e <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> termies or something like them)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:22:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ number9dream]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They shouldn't necessarily be fighting <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> termies, as they should be swamped with boyz/volume of fire. T5, 4+ armour, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> means that they stand up to most other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> specialists easily enough.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Warboss Gutrip]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey guys thanks a ton for the feed back.  I'll be reposting my list with the suggested changes sometime today.  I'm off to work for the moment so expect a list sometime tonight.<br /> <br /> Once again thanks a ton guys and any other suggestions are much appreciated.  <br /> <br /> Waaaaggghhhh on my friends]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:44:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bad_Sheep37]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There question of Cyborks is one which has been around since the dawn of Nob Bikers. Is it worth the points? One camp says no, they already have enough protection and one camp says yes, if your dumping 1/3 of your list points into one unit its best to protect them by any means possible.<br /> <br /> Personally I am of the later but there needs to be considerations. An undermanned burna squad is certainly reason to drop the cybork bodies, as the Ork golden rule is "all or nothing." <br /> <br /> In addition kitting out your nobz is preferential as well. My nob biker teams are kitted out as so and have been devastating!<br /> <br /> 1: Painboy<br /> 2: Nob w/ Bike (no upgrades, the fall boy)<br /> 3: Nob w/ Bike, UC<br /> 4: Nob w/ Bike, UC, Shoota/Rokkit<br /> 5: nob w/ Bike, UC, Shoota/Skorcha<br /> 6: Nob w/ Bike, UC, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Shoota<br /> 7: Nob w/ Bike, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, Waagh Banner<br /> 8: Nob w/ Bike, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, Bosspoke<br /> 9: Nob w/ Bike, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, Shoota/rokkit<br /> <br /> I only include more rokkits because I run an all bike army. Usually 2 Nob Biker squads each of 9, 3 Deffkoptas and 12 Ork Warbikes in da lead. They are "Gork's Anjuls".<br /> <br /> You'll notice I only have 9 wearbikes in my nob squad. I can add a 10th, which is usually Nob w/ Bike, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, Shoota/Skorcha, but in general I find I don't need it and the points I spend on that model are better spent on the deffkoptas. <br /> <br /> You can read tacticas galore, battle reports and all sorts of opinion on how to kit out your Nob Bikers and each one will be different for different reasons. There will be people reading this who will disagree with including a "vanilla" nob biker and others who will say "well, that makes deciding which one dies first a lot easier." It's like ordering toppings on your Pizza - very rarely will 2 people agree on the same cominations and be 100 percent happy with the results. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:17:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 2000 Volts]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I take cybork because there are quite a few things out there these days that seem to ignore cover. Plus the people I play against run their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(497);'>TT</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> squads in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>-Redeemers so its much hard to avoid coming into contact with them in addition to their S6 AP3 no cover temps, so the 5++ helps a ton. Good luck!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:21:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> Mech <br /> <br /> Biker Boss <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -Attack Squig<br /> -Cybork Body<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 20x Sluggas <br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> <br /> 20x Sluggas  <br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> <br /> 9x Nob Bikers <br /> Nob 1: Pain Boy / Cybork Body<br /> Nob 2: Boss Pole / Cybork Body<br /> Nob 3: Waaaghhhh Banner / Cybork Body<br /> Nob 4: Power Klaw / Cybork Body<br /> Nob 5: Power Klaw / Kombi Rocket / Cybork Body<br /> Nob 6: Power Klaw / Kombi Rocket / Ammo Runt / Cybork Body<br /> Nob 7: Big Choppa / Cybork Body<br /> Nob 8: Big Choppa / Kombi Rocket / Cybork Body<br /> Nob 9: Big Choppa / Kombi Rocket / Ammo Runt / Cybork Body<br />  <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Deff Kopta <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rockets<br /> -Buzz Saw<br /> <br /> Deff Kopta <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rockets<br /> -Buzz Saw<br /> <br /> Deff Kopta <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rockets<br /> -Buzz Saw<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 15x Burnas <br /> <br /> Heavy:<br /> Battlewagon     &lt;---------------15x Burna Boyz<br /> -Deff Rolla<br /> -2x Big Shootas<br /> -Red Paint<br /> <br /> Battlewagon    &lt;----------------20x Sluggas<br /> -Deff Rolla<br /> -1x Big Shootas<br /> -Red Paint<br /> <br /> Battlewagon      &lt;----------------20x Sluggas<br /> -Deff Rolla<br /> -1x Big Shootas<br /> -Red Paint<br /> <br /> Total:1996<br /> <br /> <br /> I really want the 2 big shootas on the Burna wagon.  I have run into to many situations where I had a couple weapon destroyed results and it would have left them stranded.  <br /> <br /> I could put the lootas in if i dropped the Deff Koptas, but i think the Koptas will add that extra edge on turn 1.  <br /> <br /> I decided to give the unit the Cybork bodies...its only an extra 5 points a model and i really want these guys to survive and krump as much as they can.  <br /> <br /> Let me know what you guys think of the new list.  Thanks for all the imput =)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:51:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bad_Sheep37]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks pretty good.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:09:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Claypool]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sweet Man.  <br /> <br /> *Stamped and Approved* ]]></description>
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