Angron wrote:Eh, the problem is, even with the d6 stomp attacks, even with two of them against a unit, theres just soooo many attacks coming back at them, plus ranks, plus standard, I see them having problems winning the combats

Warpsolution wrote:I will agree with Shivan, albeit in milder tones.

The Coach and the 'ghulf may not be able to break stuff on their own (though d6+4 attacks versus ones that probably wound on 6's and half are regenerated still feels like you're coming out ahead), but if you can take out their ranks via a flank charge, you'll essentially ensure victory.

Regwon wrote:
@Tzeentchling9

Without errata necromancers take away spells that could be used by your vampires, which makes them unplayable, since you can only have a single particular spell in each army (except the base spell).

Actually, casters that get spells without rolling for them don't count toward the "1 spell per army" limit.

Again lots of points in core. Skeletons are WS2 S3 T3 with a 5+ sv. They cant kill anything by themselves. I dont think theres much point having so many.

Not really a lot of core, I have about 68 more points than I need to make the list legal(Cart does not count).

The idea with the Skeletons(and the Zombies) are to tarpit and have the flanking Rares and the Vamps in the units do the killing.

It turns out standards are quite important in 8th, so every unit that can have one should.

That's why I have Skellies over ghouls( ) and they and the Graveguard do have one. The Zombies are more likely to just die and the Black Knights are too few number and just meant to hit flanks and/or warmachines.

Cavalry cant break unit unles they're in two ranks now, but you can attack in an extra rank. This makes a unit of 10 Black Knights quite good, especially if they have the Royal Banner of the Strigos to give them hatred.

I know that, but they are not supposed to charge flanks on their own, they are going to support the blocks of Core.