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Librarian
- Avenger
- Might of the Ancients
Total 100pts

Troops


10 Tactical Marines
- Melta Gun
- Missile Launcher
-Sergeant – Power fist
- Drop Pod
Total 235pts

10 Tactical Marines
- Flamer
- Missile launcher
-Sergeant – Power fist
- Drop Pod
Total 230pts

5 Marine Scouts
- 4 Sniper rifles
- Missile launcher
Total 85pts


Elite


5 Terminator's
- Heavy flamer
- 1 Chainfist
Total 210pts
(terminators in crusader)


Dreadnought
- Assault Cannon
- Drop Pod
Total 150pts

Fast Attack


10 Assault Marines
- Sergeant – Power Fist
- 2 Flamers
Total 235pts

Heavy Support

Land Raider Crusader
Total 250pts]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1716510.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1716510.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1721570.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1721570.page GMT
For Assault Cannons, you generally want to avoid non-TL varieties. A multimelta is a much better option for a Dread in a pod. MM + Heavyflamer more precisely.

For Terminators in Land Raiders, you probably want Assault Terminators, TH/SS. I'll take a 3++ over 2 bolter shots any day of the week.

The Librarian would be well served to run Avenger and Null Zone. The Terminators have enough brutality that he won't need Might of the Ancients, and since Terminators make things take invulnerable saves, it stands to reason that you might want some way of negating that. Run into enemy Terminators or another hard hitting unit? Leave the Librarian in the vehicle and Null Zone it.

Vanilla Assault Marines suck, but Chaplains make them suck less.


You're really lacking antitank, specifically melta weapons. Your ranged antitank amounts to a couple MLs, a meltagun, and a couple Assault Cannons. Meh...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1721649.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1721649.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1721880.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1721880.page GMT Ive been wanting to make a BR list for a while now (just dont know where to start). Only thing I can come up with is a Libaraian and some Dreds. Only thing I would like to see is...(I am no expert I just see what I like and use it)

1. Drop pods
2. Another Libaraian (maybe 1 defesive and 1 offensive)
3. I dont think the Scouts are needed, buff up on more terminators?
4. No Commander Borale, you already lost becuse you dont have "epic speech"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1721963.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1721963.page GMT )

My lib also wasnt going to go with the terminators, done that before with the assault terminators however i seem to play alot of tau at the moment so generally i get one assault of and spend the rest of the game chasing tau :(

Basically i had a bigger squad of scouts however i drop some to buff the assault marines, was would it be better to have them at about 7/8 and have the assault marines arounf 8 man (even if im starting to get pissed off with them :( )

I could certainly but a couple of combi-meltas in my tactical squads, my only concern is if all my squads are firing at tanks when i drop them im just going to get nuked the following turn.

I do have a couple of jump pack Chaplains so i could try and fit one in.

Cheers guys for the feedback, once i get a few more replies i will make some changes!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1722435.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/303471/1722435.page GMT