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				<description><![CDATA[ How to begin this....<br /> <br /> Not sure really. <br /> <br /> What do you think will happen when the Void Dragon is woken up? Will the imperium fall? How about the Outsider? is he really the Hive Mind? Put in your thoughts here! im curious about what people think about these events.<br /> <br /> (For those that dont know, The void dragon is "Supposedly" the Machine spirit that the imperium is so fond of. in reality, the void dragon is a GOD.) <br /> (the outsider (another god)...well, no1 is sure what happened to him, but rumours are that he IS the hive mind (tyranids). all we know is that he is sealed up somewhere.)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think that when the void dragon wakes up he will take control of every machine in the Imperium and turn them against humanity to start a second age of strife.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:11:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ that is probably what games workshop has intended. 5th Ed is supposed to be the turning point for the imperium. this should be really interesting! <br /> <br /> Do you think that the outsider is actually the hive mind?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think both entities are C'tan. It would therefore make sense to me for The Outsider to be the originator of the Tyranids. If you are an entity that thrives on the life force of other beings why not gather it together into one big lump for a feast rather than using Necrons to graze. As for the Void Dragon. some of the adeptus mechanicus might think it's their machine god but I think they have made a terrible mistake. <br /> <br /> Sadly I don't think we will ever find out. Releasing either would change the background too far. Might lead to some interesting Necron army variants if they did though!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:49:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cypher will been en route to Terra by way of Mars, when the Void Dragon wakes. Cypher will get rid of the Void Dragon, or perhaps whatever he wants to do with it. then, a huge number of chapters will show up and then kill Cypher. but they weren't supposed to until the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> shown up. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> get pissed off and attack the chapters that killed Cypher. second heresy. at the end of it all the chapters have been decimated, but when the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span> declare the heretics (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> and friends) to be traitors, the emperor wakes! and that ends the fluff section. <br /> <br /> Imperium divided, emperor woken, questioning of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span>'s  role into the politics of the galaxy. very grimdark.<br /> <br /> thats what I <i>hope</i> happens but it wont.<br /> <br /> (please excuse the terrible writing!)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:55:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmm, it's quite interesting to me that an awful lot of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> fluff seems to come back to the Necrons..! <br /> <br /> There's the origin of the Orks (created by the Old Ones), the origin of the Eldar (ditto), all Adeptus Mechanicus theology, possibly the tyranids, that mysterious Dyson Sphere...<br /> <br /> The necrons are certainly the most mysterious race, leaving so much for the player to piece together... It's a bit like an alternative-reality game!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:19:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh, and the Dark Angels thing. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>sevend3f wrote:</cite>Cypher will been en route to Terra by way of Mars, when the Void Dragon wakes. Cypher will get rid of the Void Dragon, or perhaps whatever he wants to do with it. then, a huge number of chapters will show up and then kill Cypher. but they weren't supposed to until the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> shown up. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> get pissed off and attack the chapters that killed Cypher. second heresy. at the end of it all the chapters have been decimated, but when the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span> declare the heretics (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> and friends) to be traitors, the emperor wakes! and that ends the fluff section. <br /> <br /> Imperium divided, emperor woken, questioning of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span>'s  role into the politics of the galaxy. very grimdark.<br /> <br /> thats what I <i>hope</i> happens but it wont.<br /> <br /> (please excuse the terrible writing!)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I actually think this would be a great Idea! But I do think maybe it should go a little like this...<br /> <br /> Cypher arrives on mars just when the Void Dragon wakes up. He almost slays the beast when the Dragon picks him up and crushes him in it's jaws. The Fallen sense the death of the most powerful fallen and send a burst of energy directly towards the rock, with all the hate and anguish of the fallen, freeing Luther. Luther escapes, and heads into the Tower Of Angels. He comes back with with a elegant robe, and has claimed to been spoken to by the Primarch. He goes to Mars, stealing a thunderhawk. He pickes up and unsheathes the Sword Of the Lion, and slays the void dragon. This causes all the Machine spirits to die out, The Dark Angels are declared Traitors, and Luther goes to the tower to speak to The Lion.<br /> <br /> That's all I got so far.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:37:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>sevend3f wrote:</cite>Cypher will been en route to Terra by way of Mars, when the Void Dragon wakes. Cypher will get rid of the Void Dragon, or perhaps whatever he wants to do with it. then, a huge number of chapters will show up and then kill Cypher. but they weren't supposed to until the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> shown up. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> get pissed off and attack the chapters that killed Cypher. second heresy. at the end of it all the chapters have been decimated, but when the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span> declare the heretics (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> and friends) to be traitors, the emperor wakes! and that ends the fluff section. <br /> <br /> Imperium divided, emperor woken, questioning of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span>'s  role into the politics of the galaxy. very grimdark.<br /> <br /> thats what I <i>hope</i> happens but it wont.<br /> <br /> (please excuse the terrible writing!)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> OOoooK.....You do realize that there is only 1 artifact that can kill a c'tan. and it is not in the imperiums hands right now. The other thing that can kill a c'tan is another C'tan. hope this clarifies you! <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> (and if they do breach the necrodermis of the C'tan, the c'tan will evaporate and re-appear back at necrontier.)<br /> <br /> People think nothing bad is going to happen to the imperium! but in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> own words, <blockquote class="uncited"><div>It is a dark time for the Imperium as the Age of Mankind comes to an end.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:55:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kyric]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Whats the thing that can kill a C'Tan? <br /> <br /> And besides, everybody knows that at the turn of M42, The Emperor will be re-incarnated, Ultra-MAN healed, the Khan released, Jonson re-apears, Russ makes a dynamic entry, Corax comes out of his emo closet, and Vulkan pops out of a volcano. Coincidentaly at the same time the Eye of terror explodes due to a meth lab explosion thanks to the Emprerors children. Thus heralding an age of peace.....   <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> HA, Fat chance. Thats the exact opposite of our favorite wargames Grimdark, spectrum. I wish they would advance the story, but as we all know, that wont EVER happen.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:32:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Captain Godfrey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ true. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. i cant remember the name of the artefact, but there is only 1, and the imperium does not have it. so the C'tan will come and Devour your precious planet! WAHAHAHAHA! ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:41:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kyric]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There is also Psykers, because (according to Lexicanum) C'tan cannot understand the warp to any degree, and are suceptible to it an its effects.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:21:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Captain Godfrey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i have never heard of that. but do realize that the c'tan that you SEE is totally different of that of the actual C'tan. you SEE a big monster. what it is is INSIDE. which is invincible. they may not understand the warp, but good luck banishing some gas into the warp.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:35:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kyric]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The only way to kill a C'tan is for another C'tan to attack it or by shooting with a black stone fortress. C'tan have so much control over reality that they just run away and heal. When any normal creature kills it they just destroy its shell, so it is weakened, without the necrodermis they aren't really in the same level of reality as us. Another C'tan can only kill it because they can change reality as fast as the other C'tan.<br /> <br /> The warp affects C'tan because they are so strongly connected to this dimension the warp is their opposite and they can't exist in the same place. Instead of warping them it destroys them. A Psyker could destroy one but they would need to be extremely powerful (maybe more powerful then the emperor). Blackstone fortress work by tearing a huge hole into the warp which engulfs the C'tan.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:03:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i think the imperium launches some massive attack on the crons, weakoning the c'tan and crons alike, and then some space marine character (probably ultramarine or something) comes in to save the day.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:12:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Marneus Calgar will beat up the Void Dragon who will then commit suicide because he can never be as awesome as the Ultramarines.<br /> Or perhaps the swarmlord will eat the poor C'tan. Hrm, or Mephiston will rip him apart with his awesome psychic powers...<br /> So, if the Void Dragon is smart he will simply stay asleep. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ OR chuck norris discovers time travel and comences the new millineum butt kicking.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:40:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Captain Godfrey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Coc0loc0 wrote:</cite>I think that when the void dragon wakes up he will take control of every machine in the Imperium and turn them against humanity to start a second age of strife.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Or he will wake up and go to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>mc</span> donnalds and order a bacon and egg <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>mc</span> muffin .. only to be told that " we cant serve that sir its 10:01 and we cant serve it after 10:00 " .... Then gets mad and starts the second age of strife  and kills us all .<br /> GOD DAM YOU <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> DONNALDS YOU KILLED IS ALL :(   <br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ HA, weak. Good one. But maybe we should just blow up mars and destroy the threat before it emerges?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Captain Godfrey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Captain Godfrey wrote:</cite>HA, weak. Good one. But maybe we should just blow up mars and destroy the threat before it emerges?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Which one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>Mc</span> Donnalds or the Void Dragon   <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ darkangels_rule]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Chuck Norris becomes Doctor Who's new sidekick, they land on Mars, Chuck kills the VD, then the Imperium gets pissed when all the machines stop working, before Chuck beats the Chaos Gods into a pulp that bonds together to make a single God. Then the rest is even more confusing, so Chuck and the Doctor just back away slowly before returning to Earth to tell me what happened.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jul 2010 04:52:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tim the Biovore]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ha, this fake universe needs a good ending.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Captain Godfrey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Tim the Biovore wrote:</cite>Chuck Norris becomes Doctor Who's new sidekick, they land on Mars, Chuck kills the VD, then the Imperium gets pissed when all the machines stop working, before Chuck beats the Chaos Gods into a pulp that bonds together to make a single God. Then the rest is even more confusing, so Chuck and the Doctor just back away slowly before returning to Earth to tell me what happened.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> It kind of looses it at the " to make a single God " bit ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmmm... Maybe the Void Dragon is actually using humans already or he could be being used as some sort of power source? <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> I need to reread the mechanicum book.  Seems to me that they go to the tomb of the Void Dragon and either of guarding it from the rest of the galaxy and or protecting the Void Dragon from the rest of the galaxy.   <img src="/s/i/a/c614b4720f1b7225b0523f616ac30b2f.gif" border="0"> as for the outsider it could be the tyranids but I thought he was a bit more of a nutter.  At the same time are they tyrandis avoiding tomb worlds because the necrons have no biomass or for some other reason?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Or maybe Chuck Norris awakens from his 30,000 year slumber and takes his rightful place yet again as the One True God Emperor!  By this I mean he literally gets out of bed scratches himself and pushes the Emperor of the Golden Throne.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ MrBakelsworth]]></author>
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				<title>Re:The Machine Spirit!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ In Mechanicum the Emperah  banished the Void Dragon to mars right? (possible because he knew it would create the Admech).  The Emperah did not know about the heresy or that he'd "die".  I think when the golden throne fails, the VD wakes up and nomnoms earth making the Admech the new power of humanity, effectively rendering the spess mahreens without logistical support, and tearing the imperium apart.  <br /> <br />  This makes the chapter specific codecies all the more relevant seeing as how they would obviously take sides one way or another. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:06:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lucid]]></author>
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				<title>The Machine Spirit!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Was the void dragon imprisoned or slumbering then kept asleep by the the Emperor]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:17:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MrBakelsworth]]></author>
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				<title>Re:The Machine Spirit!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ imprisoned]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:53:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lucid]]></author>
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				<title>Re:The Machine Spirit!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think the throne failed, I don't think he had a chance to properly finish it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:26:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MrBakelsworth]]></author>
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