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<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Best lore for Slann"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Best lore for Slann
Me, I think that Light is the best, closely followed be Shadow and Fire.

The reason I think that Lore of Light is the best Lore for the Slann is that it has several powerful supporting spells, which seem almost custom-cut for Lizardmen, as well as several more offensive spells. In addition, the casting values on most spells are low enough that a Slann with the Focused Rumination can comfortably cast them on a single die. The fact it is boosted against my least favorite armies to fight just makes it sweeter. But lets look at what the spells do:

Shem's Burning Gaze: This is a really nice spell. Cast on 1 die, add another from The Focused Rumination, add 4. It will only fail to cast on the Eyes of Sotek (

), and will, on average, propel it into the realm of "Not worth dispelling". The upmarketed spell I am less impressed with, but it is still a useful option.

Phas Protection: Just as easy to cast as Shem's, this spell is a useful force multiplier. The -1 to hit protects those expensive, footslogging Saurus and Temple Gaurd from enemy shooting, as well as alleviating the problems of poor weapon skill Lizardmen have to deal with.

The speed of Light: Still fairly reliable on 1 Die, this spell overcomes both major weaknesses of Saurus Warriors. And Saurus Cavalry. And Basically anything not packing a great weapon.

Light of Battle: This is probably the least useful spell in the lore for Lizards. It allows auto-rallying. It is definately useful, but it's short range means that anything elegible will probably already have rallied.

Net of Amnytok: You will probably want to cast this spell using 2 base dice, unless you are feeling lucky. This spell does nasty things to low-S units. Let us say that a unit want's to move, shoot, cast a spell, and then flee as a charge reaction. That is a potential 4d6 S4 hits, 8d6 if undead or daemons.

Banishment: This is basically a upmarketed version of Shem's, Without the upgrade to S6.

Bironas Timewarp: This is a very nice spell. The double speed helps move those Footsloggers into position, and the extra attacks are just nice. But what really makes it is the Always strikes first rule. Need I say more?

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Being able to regenerate our expensive units, giving wound back to characters or our stegs, throne of vines, super tough infantry!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1746885.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1746885.page GMT Best lore for Slann
I prefer light because you can buff your ENTIRE army and literally cake walk through the enemy]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1747221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1747221.page GMT Best lore for Slann http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1747318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1747318.page GMT Best lore for Slann
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1747331.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1747331.page GMT Best lore for Slann After all you've got 7 spells you might as well cast them all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1747342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1747342.page GMT Best lore for Slann

cypher wrote:Yea, but most lizard units can already dish out a huge amount of pain. They dont really need buffs to get through. Life is so good because it also can be easily cast by the slan and there are so many multi-wound models that lizards can get the most of the lore benefit.

yup every time the slann cast a spell.. which he will do... a lot....

You get +1 wound back on him, a stegadon, a scar vet, an old blood, etc etc.

Not to mention hitting units with a regen, miscast protection, toughness boosts, bringing back models in a unit...

Its just my opinion, but giving one unit a 4+ regen, then another 4+ toughness seems like it will make the opponent choose, use their power dice to dispel in their magic phase (thus negating their magic phase) OR they are in for a rough shooting and close combat phase.

Saurus dont do much damage on there own? or we looking at the same Saurus?

2 Str 4 attacks, with T4 and a 4+/6+ save in close combat if you dont take spears... for 11 points thats pretty good.

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If you're facing Daemons, don't forget a Bane Head. Arguably more useful than Cupped Hands.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1748916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1748916.page GMT Re:Best lore for Slann Saurus really dont need to strike first with how resiliant they are. Even against say high elf spearmen making 25 attacks they will only take like 2 wounds with HW/shield.

Less if they have the life toughness buff on them.

Also the lore of life passive is ALWAYS amazing...

Where the lore of light passive is only amazing if your fighting daemons or undead.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1749033.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1749033.page GMT Re:Best lore for Slann CC ability the saurus type units have)

Since the slaan is going to be making a bunch of his own dice, and has a +4 to casting value, most magic phases will be seeing the priest also casting his spells, I give him the extra spell plaque, so its a good selection usually.

As for the "if your facing X take Y" crap... List tailoring is list tailoring. The having to choose your lore during army building was a pretty clear signal that such tactics of taking items and lore depending on your opponent is not acceptable.
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List tailoring was/is bad enough without the rules allowing you to do it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1749056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1749056.page GMT Best lore for Slann
All of them are doable of course. I think the spell lists overall are very solid.

Though I like Skaven Ruin probably most :(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1759369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1759369.page GMT Re:Best lore for Slann
Being able to bring back 32-112 points of temple guard is very nice... Or 2-6 wounds back on that very expensive ancient steg. Or that unit champion with some magic items you lost.

Boosting there toughness puts them anywhere from T4-T8 for their normal RNF saurus, meaning lots of things need 6's to wound.

Cant complain with a 5+/4+ regen save either, since none of the lizards(barring the slann or character with special armor) have ward saves.

Light on the other hand can boost their WS (which is pretty low honestly) and Initiative.

The I is less of a big deal for me, since lizards are already tough and with step up dont get hurt that bad.

Light also has a few more offensive options, HOWEVER the passive for light absolutely pales in comparis to life.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1759964.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1759964.page GMT Re:Best lore for Slann
Light has some nasty buffs that Slann can get the Powered Up AoEs pretty easily with the Focused Rumination and some decent damaging spells. An excellent all rounder. Light's attribute might not be as good as Life's, but tell that to a Daemon player after you have just "Banished" an entire unit of Pink Horrors or hit his Greater Daemon with 2d6 S6 hits from the signature spell.

Life has killer buffs and a sweet attribute. Can't really go wrong with it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760187.page GMT Best lore for Slann
I played yesterday and found Beasts was pretty handy as well. Providing buffs to units is never a bad thing, and since it has the "Giant Bow" spell as well, your opponent really has to decided what he wants to dispel. Does he stop the buffs, making your guys tougher (or weakening his, potentially), or does he stop the bolt thrower shot or other damage spells?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760292.page GMT Best lore for Slann WoC then pick metal. Spell lore is chosen as part of your army list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760340.page GMT Best lore for Slann http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760416.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760416.page GMT Re:Best lore for Slann
Sooo you have to pick between +4 toughness, regen, replacing models, or making your entire unit take a strength test.... ( i chose life just cause its the lore i know well, other lores have this ability also).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1760434.page GMT Best lore for Slann http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1765279.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1765279.page GMT Re:Best lore for Slann AP rule is worded. AP only works with ranged if the weapons them selves have AP, if the unit has AP its for Close combat attacks only.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1766300.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1766300.page GMT Best lore for Slann http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1766954.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1766954.page GMT Best lore for Slann

Mattlov wrote:True, but if you know your opponent like I do most of the time it isn't an issue.

List tailoring is list tailoring. Its best to just build a single "all comers" list and bring it to most games that are played at that level. If you only have a single opponent, it makes it even more lame to tailor (and its boring for him as he faces the same kick in the

lore every game). Personally I make my lists to fight against any army, even if I know exactly what I'm facing when I'm building the list. Sure, it means I miss out on a bunch of things, but it makes me a better player when it comes to facing unknowns like in a tourney (the only time it matters to me if I win, other games are just practice).

My Slaan is always going to take lore of life. My empire wizard lord is going to always beasts. My dark elf Supreme is always going to take dark magic (might choose shadow, haven't tried it yet).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1769685.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1769685.page GMT Best lore for Slann http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1770216.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1770216.page GMT Best lore for Slann
It'd almost be a handicap choosing something else.

You'd lose miscast protection, 4+ regeneration ward save, +4 toughness, Regrowth bringing dead things back to life and/or healing stuff - AND every single Life spell gets to put a wound back on your Slann or Ancient Stegadon, etc.

That's like casting two spells with every spell.

Light is pretty mediocre. The only fancy thing in the Lore is Timewarp, really, and that's what the opponent is going to dispel / scroll.

If your Saurus are toughness 8, even enemy great weapons need 6+ to wound them. It doesn't matter if you strike last if you only lost 1 or 2 guys in the back rank who couldn't stab anyone anyway.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1777184.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1777184.page GMT Best lore for Slann
It buffs me so it doesn't matter who I'm fighting against and their characteristics (other lores work vs armour saves, some I, some T , some St)

Also throne of vines which is just dumb for its casting level.

Light has been a close second but to get max output from it you need to stack spells and that can be hard

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I can only see Life being better for Lizardmen :( If i can have fun with T9, regenerating Treekin; imagine the fun you guys can have with your units and (your near-perfect) spellcasters! Light looks at best situational for Slaan, and with Fire being toned down slightly, being able to buff your army looks to be the better option.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1777292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1777292.page GMT Best lore for Slann http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1777520.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1777520.page GMT Best lore for Slann http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1779139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1779139.page GMT Best lore for Slann
On an unrelated note,
I guess I shouldn't take Life with Teclis high elves?

He ignores the first miscast every turn. Which kinda detracts from casting Throne of Vines. Or maybe that's just a safeguard for the 2nd spell.. hmm..

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TheBloodGod wrote:I don't think conversion is really necessary. His chair is covered with Vines and jungle creatures. If that aint "Life" I don't know what is.

Mine has a tree growing off the back of his Palanquin...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1779235.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/305371/1779235.page GMT