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first time poster, first time army list for my new ork army.

pls give me some pointers if this army is good or not. i play space marines allready (6000 point salamander army), but i also wanted to start a small ork army.

thnx for the advice.

TROOPS
ork boyz (12)
- 1 nob eavy armour, power claw and slugga, bosspole
- 1 boy bigg shoota
- 13 boy'z choppa, slugga

transport
Trukk big shoota, red paint job, grott riggers


5 nob bikers (troop choice)

- 1 nob bike power claw, slugga
- 3 nob bikers choppa, slugga,
- 1 painboy on bike with doks tools, urty syringe and grott orderly


FAST ATTACK:

4 deffkoptas

- 4deffkopta buzzsaw, twin linked rocket launcha


ELITE

3 nob bikers (led by warboss)

- 1 nob biker power claw, slugga, bike, waagh banner
- 1 nob biker choppa, twin linked shoota, bike ammo r
- 1 nob biker power claw, slugga, bike

5 mega nobz:

- mega armour, twin linked shoota, power claw

transport:

battle wagon, red paint job, armour plate, grot riggers, 4 bigg shoot's, kannon, stikkbomb chukka


HQ

Warboss, groth snaping teeth

- warbike, bosspole, cybork body, stikkbombz, power claw

Bigg mek nazgob meccani

- grot oilers, bosspole, cybork body, eavy armour, power claw



greetings
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I would be very glad to help you but I just have a lot of trouble making sense of your list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1767096.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1767096.page GMT
i hope this is much better to read

tnx for the advice]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1767531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1767531.page GMT
Bikers already have a 4+ armor save so 'eavy Armor is worthless. 4 Nob bikers aren't enough to get anything done. You need minimum five and they need a Painboy and to be diversified for wound allocation.

Deffdreads aren't that great and it doesn't fit into this list at all because it is loads slower than anything else you are fielding. Drop it.

You should run either Koptas or Buggies, not both. I prefer Koptas. Run three one model mobs and equip all of them with a Buzzsaw and TL Rokkits.

Killkannons are not very good and you shouldn't be transporting anything in a Battlewagon that has one. Your big Mek should be in a trukk with some boyz.

Again, diversify your bikers.

Warboss needs a PK not a Big Choppa and cybork body and 'eavy Armor may be overkill.

You can't have a Shoota/Skorcha and a KFF. PK is overkill stick with a burna.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1767558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1767558.page GMT
Your warboss needs to have a powerklaw to be really useful. I tried a warboss with a big choppa and it doesn't work. Having a Power klaw means you are strength 10 and no armour saves allowed. This is what my warboss is like:
Warboss- Power Klaw, twin linked shoota, Cybork body, Boss pole, eavy armour and attack squig. He'll have plenty of attacks and vehicles and monsters will die (make sure you keep him in a unit).

Don't take Deth Dreads they are a waste of pionts. Take killa kans because they are so unfairly cheap for what they are. Also a little tip for killa kans, have them within 6 inches of your mek with force feild. This means they will be getting a 4+ cover save for being obscured. Take them with Armour plates and Skorcha. This combo works the best.

If your going to take bikes have them in big units not little units of 4 nob bikers. Nob bikers are good but they cost two many pionts for what they are. One battle cannon shot will kill them all.

I agree with Claypool about having koptas over Buggies. Buggies die to easily. And Kopters are more fun. lol

Cheers Luke

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I would say though that if your gearing for an army thats in transports, Kans have no place in it. Orks have to hit at the same time whether thats on turn 2 with a bunch of BWs and Trukks, or on turn 3 with a bunch of Kans and Boyz. Dont split your force. It becomes so easy to isolate and focus fire.
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I do agree focus your force in one area so you can break there line in one turn. I will charge all my units in one turn this turns the entire battle straight into your favor. Your only on the losing side until your in charging range

Why wouldn't you take skorchas they are the best ranged weapon a kan can have. If your up against light opponents a skorcha (Heavy flamer) will be the best option. You will hit alot more models with a flame template then anything else. And even against marines they will need to take alot more armour saves then if you shot them with a big shoota or grotzooka. BS 3 is still not something to write home about.

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Because Orks are already amazing at anti-infantry (read Close combat) and are in desperate need of reliable anti-tank which is easily provided by BS3 Rokkits and Str 10 DCCW's.

Ork transports can be simply amazing if used properly, such as with a KFF or two. Even AV 10 can stand up to some abuse when it has a 4+ save. Plus they get you into assault range that much faster, which you yourself said is critical.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1768845.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1768845.page GMT
With your big mek yourealy only want the force field, maby a burna if you got the spare points.

Combine your nob bikers into one unit and give then each diferent equipment to abuse the wound allocating rule,drop the eavy armor as well, and defenatly give them a pain boy.

Finally you need more boys, 15 just aint going to do. if your going on foot you want 20 or more, in a truck you can only have 12.put a nob with a power claw and boss pole in each mob, and you should put you big mek in a truck with 11 boys.

hope this give you some focus for yours boys and good luck]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1768858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1768858.page GMT
we'll i've changed my armylist quit a bit

i've posted the new one over the old one.

i hope this is better then the first one :p

pls keep giving me your advice ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1769773.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/306790/1769773.page GMT