<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Starting new IG army"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Starting new IG army IG, Dkok to be exact. The only problem is gaming, every time I have played agasint IG they have been slaughterd and decimeted in the first turn. I need a bit of advice on the matter. Any help would be greatly apprecited. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1783806.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1783806.page GMT Starting new IG army
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Category:Imperial_Guard]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1783925.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1783925.page GMT Starting new IG army
Like most armies, the guard really suffers with poor list-building, though I'd argue even moreso than most. Many guard commanders have a tendency to horribly waste points on low-power stuff, which would allow you, a seasoned, streamlined chaos vet to walk all over them.

Built properly, the guard can be plenty competitive. I'd buy a codex if you're serious, and put up some lists first that other people can help you with.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1784390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1784390.page GMT Starting new IG army
battle force gives you everything needed to start a platoon and 3rd infintry squad can be part of that or veterans. if you get two sentinals you would then have 3 making a full squad w 3 lascannons that are an insta kill on most stuff. You will have a platoon comand squad and a heavy weapons squad. Make all your vehicals w/ camo clokes so people have to roll night fire. Hunter killers on one or all arnt bad, especialy if your starting IG. ALL COMAND SQUADS NEED MEDIC. Fel no pain saves lives. Keep all w lasguns or power weapons. Infintry squads should have all lasguns and mayby 2 grenaders 2 flamers. No meltas. Anything else, just ask]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785119.page GMT Starting new IG army
The battleforce isn't a terrible starting spot, but only if you're going with a force that contains infantry horde, mechanized or armored. If you're wanting to make a list that has a serious artillery or air-cavalry component, you might be better off buying other stuff.

Once again, it depends on what kind of play style you want, and what kind of list your fielding. Give us more info on these things and we can help you out more.


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785142.page GMT Starting new IG army hq. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785155.page GMT Starting new IG army
Starting off with Forgeworld can get pricey, so pick up things that are universal. Chimeras. Can't go wrong there. Leman Russ demolisher kit (magnitize the turret options). Leman russ regular (magnitize the turret options). That way, you have a solid start and 6 Leman russ options in any given battle. Look into the valkyrie and vendetta. The vendetta conversion kit is worth it. Buy me one when you order $150 or more from forgeworld while youre at it.

I can consistently win or tie any game with a casual or serious player with CSM, Eldar, SM, or Tyranid using my IG force. Its just knowing the strengths and ignoring all the fluffy options that are unnecessary. I never take sponsons on my leman russes besides bolters when I play 'nids. I have never taken a grenade launcher. Plasma is your friend. That should get you started.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785419.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785419.page GMT Starting new IG army
Not to mention it will laugh in the face of anything below AV14. Twin linked is a great thing to have. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785512.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785512.page GMT Starting new IG army
Jaon wrote:With tldr, I agree on the vendetta entirely. If you want a vehicle with reasonable armour, excellent speed, a wonderful transport capacity and some nice rules (such as inbuilt extra armour) for the wonderful price of 130 points, get one of these.

Not to mention it will laugh in the face of anything below AV14. Twin linked is a great thing to have.
dont forget its 3 lascannons]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785639.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785639.page GMT Starting new IG army
tldr wrote:Starting off with Forgeworld can get pricey, so pick up things that are universal. Chimeras. Can't go wrong there. Leman Russ demolisher kit (magnitize the turret options). Leman russ regular (magnitize the turret options). That way, you have a solid start and 6 Leman russ options in any given battle. Look into the valkyrie and vendetta. The vendetta conversion kit is worth it. Buy me one when you order $150 or more from forgeworld while youre at it.

Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention something about this.

Starting a new army is expensive what with the 50%-100% price markups over the past few years. This means that you're going to want to play your wallet close to your chest when you start out. By this I mean start building infantry with just lascannons. When I started, I ran my squads with a grenade launcher and a heavy bolter. When I decided to dump that in favor of something else, I needed to make 3 new infantry models per squad. Conversely, I've never regretted making more lasgunners, while I have other stuff sitting on the shelf that I no longer use.

As well, one of the fluff-wise logistical strengths of the guard is that it's all mounted on basically two chassis. This is also a logistical strength in the hobby world. What I'd suggest is this: if you know you're going to have anything built on a chimera chassis, then buy a couple of stock chimeras. Assemble them in such a way where you do the wheels and the front, but you leave the back of it blank. The models come with convenient sliding rails that allow you to build stuff out of plasticard and then just slide it on.

This way, instead of spending $90 for a basilisk and $60 for a hellhound, you spend $80 on a pair of chimeras that can be either hellhounds, OR basilisks (or whatever else you want them to be - all you need is some time and some plasticard). That way, you can retool your army based on your fancy, and you're not stuck with chassis that have guns glued to them that you don't want to use anymore.

Here's an example of a chimera chassis I put together and then glued a couple of pieces of plasticard together to make a flat bed that slides in:



In this case, I built a manticore on top that is really easy to slide out and slide in a scratch-built anything else should I so desire (I even still have the original bitz to make it into a chimera proper, if I want).



That and while I don't use magnets myself, they are also good for achieving this kind of multi-purposeness out of your models.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785688.page GMT Starting new IG army
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/5th_Edition_Imperial_Guard_Codex_Review_%28Polonius%29

You'll get lots of advice on IG, as there are a lot of ways to play it, and lots of successful generals. The key is to consider everything, but try stuff out before you make an commitments. Proxy units, playtest lists, and generally get used to the IG. It sounds obvious, but they play very differently from Chaos: the units are fragile, terrible in close combat, but very cheap.

I personally favor a mechanized approach: spamming melta vets, backed up by executioners and a medusa, a valk with melta CCS, and a small platoon for objective holding. I think the melta vet might be the best troop choice in the game, and the executioner, while very expensive, amazingly powerful as well as versatile.

I'm less bullish on the basic LRBT. I think it's lost a lot usefulness in 5th.

My point: make your peace with probably have models you built and painted that underperform. I have 48 stormtroopers that rarely see the table top, along with plenty of other goodies, but I'd rather play the good stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785773.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785773.page GMT Starting new IG army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1785922.page GMT Starting new IG army HQ - Company Commander 80pts
Master of ordance

Lord Comissair 80pts
PLasma pistol.

Troops
Platoon Command Squad 35pts
voxcaster Chirema 55 pts

Infantry Squad 'Ailaros' 65pts
Plasma Gun Chirema 55pts

Infantry Squad 'Polonius' 65pts
Plasma Gun Chimreia 55pts

Fat Attack
3 Vendettas 390 pts

Heavy Support
Leman russ Battle Squad
2 Excitouniores and a punisher 420 pts




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I'd roll this over to the army list board for more advice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1790697.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1790697.page GMT Starting new IG army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1793131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/307944/1793131.page GMT