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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello Everyone. I am a total noob to the war gaming scene. Ive built and painted models before and after much consideration, I want to actually start gaming. Im starting a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> army and I have a few questions:<br /> <br /> What is a good budget I should look to start with?<br /> <br /> Whats a good point range for a starting army to learn the game mechanics? (ive read some of the rulebook, but I learn better by doing then reading)<br /> <br /> Has 8th edition drastically changed the way you play a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> army? In what ways?<br /> <br /> Ive heard some bad things about playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> like here:<br /> <a href="http://www.yesthetruthhurts.com/2009/02/warriors-of-chaos_23.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.yesthetruthhurts.com/2009/02/warriors-of-chaos_23.html</a><br /> Is this true?<br /> <br /> Thank you everyone for all your help. It is much appreciated!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 8e has shifted the emphasis to the ranked unit.   Fortunately, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WOC</span> has 2 of the best core ranked units.  <br /> <br /> Warriors run in units of 15-20.  Khorne marked units work well with halberds or additional hand weapon.  Tzeetch marked units work well with hand weapon and shield.<br /> <br /> Marauders run in units up to 50.  I prefer great weapons* and no mark, others prefer flails and the mark of Khorne.<br /> <br /> *use the flail arms with the ax heads - super easy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> conversion.<br /> <br /> Trolls and/or Ogres work very well in 2 ranks of 3.<br /> <br /> Add a wizard lord, Battle Standard Bearer, and 1-2 fighting characters.<br /> <br /> Fill out the last quarter of your army with units which look like fun - Hell Cannon, Knights, Chariots, Spawn, Marauder Horsemen.  <br /> <br /> As for that blog - its the gamer equivalent of Fox News.  I don't take it seriously.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:44:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the suggestions RanTheCid. I really appreciate it. Do you have any advice for a points value to start with first? Or maybe a $$$ value estimate of how much the things you quoted might cost total?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Points depend on your local group.  2000 points would be a starting point running up to 3000 points.  <br /> <br /> 3 boxes of CW, 3 boxes of Marauders, 2 characters, 2 boxes of Trolls = $340 retail.  I'm sure you can find it at a discount somewhere.  If the budget is an issue, Knights have the best points/dollars rate.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:11:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Starting WoC Army,...Plz Help!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ RanTheCid has give you the basic breakdown of what most people are leaning towards in 8th edition.  And is a good of a starting point for the army.<br /> <br /> I also agree <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> are one of the cheapest armies to buy because i'm making a 2250 lits for about $310ish.  The only other army that I can think of being made that cheap is Ogres and HE (with the new starting box).]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Casper]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok thank you all for the advice. And thank you RanTheCid for all the help, now I have some idea of a starting point.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:36:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I agree with RanTheCid. That looks like a good way to start.<br /> I personally hate marauders, but they are very useful. I just don't like the models. Just remember - your hero/lord is probably going to massacre most other heros/lords, but they do cost a ton. Shall the Ruinous Powers aid you.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok thanks. Does anyone think its better to go with Cavalry Marauders or just Marauders or both? How many of each is good? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also note, that the link you posted is from February of 2009.<br /> Take it from somebody else who used to read steleks blog, since I stopped, I started having more fun wargaming, and stopped worrying if the army I played "Ranked" well enough. <br /> <br /> Heck, in my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> circle, tau and eldar dominate everyone. The rankings say the shouldn't, but tell that to my dead nids :(]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:47:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jamora]]></author>
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