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Remember, max 3 units of knights.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1809978.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1809978.page GMT Re:Chaos calvary army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1810055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1810055.page GMT Chaos calvary army
My impressions anyway. My fights don't involve much cav.

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cypher wrote:Remember, max 3 units of knights.


Why?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1810423.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1810423.page GMT Chaos calvary army ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1810497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1810497.page GMT Chaos calvary army
JSK-Fox wrote:Because you can only have 3 repeated special choices.


Unless you're playing 3k+ point game then you can have 6.

As for a all cav army, it's very iffy in this edition.
  • Longer charge ranges for infantry means you might not always get the charge off. Cav need to get the charge off to optimize their combat resolution which comes from killing stuff.

  • Big blocks of infantry will typically be steadfast against the cav and if they have a BSB near by the odds of them fleeing is pretty minimal which keeps you stuck in CC for another round. This allows them to bring in their cav / chariots / killy bosses on killy monsters to demolish your knights.

  • With the limits on disruption being 10 models, knights have a hard time disrupting and marauders are too paper thin to be counted on to maintain disruption.

  • Also, the step up rule no longer allows the knights to attack without getting hit back. Say for example you charge a standard unit of 20 boyz with extra choppa and full command, you're gonna be facing 16 attacks at S4 hitting on 4's which is 4 wounds on average.


    • I think this edition is more about big ol' blocks of infantry. With cav being elite troops used to break the opposition when they are already committed to combat with your infantry.]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1811677.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1811677.page GMT     Chaos calvary army
    Synnister wrote:
    JSK-Fox wrote:Because you can only have 3 repeated special choices.


    Unless you're playing 3k+ point game then you can have 6.

    As for a all cav army, it's very iffy in this edition.
  • Longer charge ranges for infantry means you might not always get the charge off. Cav need to get the charge off to optimize their combat resolution which comes from killing stuff.

  • Big blocks of infantry will typically be steadfast against the cav and if they have a BSB near by the odds of them fleeing is pretty minimal which keeps you stuck in CC for another round. This allows them to bring in their cav / chariots / killy bosses on killy monsters to demolish your knights.

  • With the limits on disruption being 10 models, knights have a hard time disrupting and marauders are too paper thin to be counted on to maintain disruption.

  • Also, the step up rule no longer allows the knights to attack without getting hit back. Say for example you charge a standard unit of 20 boyz with extra choppa and full command, you're gonna be facing 16 attacks at S4 hitting on 4's which is 4 wounds on average.


    • I think this edition is more about big ol' blocks of infantry. With cav being elite troops used to break the opposition when they are already committed to combat with your infantry.


    and with a 1+ save thats zero wounds, chaos knights will win every combat you throw them in but won't break units

    I've found that they work but it take 3-4 rounds of combat before you break units]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1811823.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1811823.page GMT     Chaos calvary army
    youbedead wrote:

    and with a 1+ save thats zero wounds, chaos knights will win every combat you throw them in but won't break units

    I've found that they work but it take 3-4 rounds of combat before you break units


    Actually with 1's always failing you have 4 chances to roll a 1 which means in the 3 rounds of combat you've lost 2 knights. With previous edition you usually only had a champ rolling his attacks back at the knights so it was pretty much good game. ]]>     http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1811903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/309537/1811903.page GMT     Chaos calvary army
    Synnister wrote:
    Actually with 1's always failing you have 4 chances to roll a 1 which means in the 3 rounds of combat you've lost 2 knights. With previous edition you usually only had a champ rolling his attacks back at the knights so it was pretty much good game.


    To be fair, the orcs will drop to strength 3 after the first round. But yes, the knights lose noticeable combat effectiveness with each fluffed armor save.

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    Synnister wrote:
    youbedead wrote:

    and with a 1+ save thats zero wounds, chaos knights will win every combat you throw them in but won't break units

    I've found that they work but it take 3-4 rounds of combat before you break units


    Actually with 1's always failing you have 4 chances to roll a 1 which means in the 3 rounds of combat you've lost 2 knights. With previous edition you usually only had a champ rolling his attacks back at the knights so it was pretty much good game.


    Of course your using naked knights, if you give em mark of nurgle then the combat works out like this knights

    5 knights nurgle (parenthesis is khorne)
    11 attacks 9 hits 6wounds=6 dead orks
    horses 5 attacks 3 hits 2 wounds 2 dead
    (16 attacks 11 hits 9 wounds = 9 dead orks
    horses
    10 attacks 5 hits 3 wounds 3 dead orks)

    14 orks
    16 attacks
    6 hit
    3 wounds =0 dead knights
    (8 orks
    14attacks
    7 hits
    2 wounds= 0 dead knights) they no longer have ranks and break

    round 2
    5 knights nurgle
    6 dead orks
    horses
    2 wounds

    6 orks
    11 attacks
    4 hits
    1 wound= no dead knights

    the boys no longer have the needed ranks for stead fast and break in 2 rounds of combat or one against frenzied knights

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