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				<description><![CDATA[ this is my ultramarines taskforce I have devised:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Captain; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>; combi plasma                                            120pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Command squad; 4xplasma gun                                    175pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Razorback                                                                    40pts<br /> Troop: 10xTac; meltagun; missile                                         175pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Rhino                                                                          35pts<br /> Troop: 10xTac; plasma gun; plasma cannon                          185pts<br /> Elite: 5xTerminator; 2xLC 3xTH/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>                                      200pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> Crusader; multimelta                                               260pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span>: 10xAssault; Powerfist                                                  215pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span>: Predator                                                                     60pts<br /> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> GRAND TOTAL:                                                             1500pts]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are all those assault weapons in that second Tactical squad options?<br /> <br /> If it was me - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> drop the jump backs and put the assault troops in a rhino - or just make them Tacticals keeping the powerfist.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> get some sponsons on that predator <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> I like the command squad - very shootie.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes they are.<br /> Why not jump pack?<br /> Please explain, otherwise it's no help whatsoever]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Aug 2010 19:47:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Good point - its not that the jump packs are bad.    Adding more armored hulls is what I was going after.   I think going completely mechanized is stronger than having a unit outside.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ aaaaaah.<br /> but what if I deep strike'em?<br /> by the time the rhinos would be toast anyway (and would allready finish their job) <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Aug 2010 20:14:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Deepstriking assault troops, Im not sure about that.  Landspeeders and Terminators are good deepstrikers in that that can blast away the turn they show up.  Assualt troops deepstriking make good targets...   Better use of them as a deployed counter assault unit.  Give them flamers, hide them behind terrain or rhinos.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Aug 2010 20:19:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>waasssdddd wrote:</cite><br /> Troop: 10xTac; flamer; meltagun; plasma gun; plasma cannon 190pts</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This is not legal. You can only have 1x special weapon and 1x heavy weapon. You have to pick only 1 from flamer, meltagun and plasmagun.<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>waasssdddd wrote:</cite><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span>: Predator                                                                     60pts</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I don't like the predator without sponsons. 60 points for an autocannon seems a waste. Change the 2nd tactical squad to having just flamer/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ml</span> and drop the combi on the captain. That gives you 25 points to put heavy bolter sponsons on the predator.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Aug 2010 22:52:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Da predator is gonna be on da move all the time, so what a re the sponsons for?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Aug 2010 07:52:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As Dracos said, you can only have one special weapon (Flamer, Melta, Plasma) and one heavy weapon (Heavy Bolter, Missile Launcher, Multi-melta, Plasma Cannon, Lascannon).  You can't have more than one special, as you have.  You must choose <u>one</u>.<br /> <br /> Also, I'd advise strongly against taking a Crusader over a Redeemer.  Redeemers are better in almsot every way.  Think about it this way: 6/12 (depending on whether or not you're in rapid fire range) S4 AP5 shots, which roll to hit with re-rolls.  Or, you could have 2 Flame templates at S6 AP3!  Against a marine squad, in cover or out, you'll kill about 2 marines with the Hurricane Bolters, whereas you kill squads at a time with a Redeemers Flamestorm Cannons.  Talking from experience, it's better to take a Redeemer.  <br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Aug 2010 09:13:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ redeemer sucks. bad. allways (well most of the time). when you're close enough to flame, he's close enough to melta, plus the crusader can fire ALL of his weapons at combat speed, chewing on infantry and cookin' a tank.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Aug 2010 10:51:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ crusader&gt;redeemer generally]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Aug 2010 15:09:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ no kidding.<br /> i hate redeemer.<br /> i also hate flamers.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Aug 2010 19:04:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I find that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span> Works best for me but I play <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> and I can deepstrike it right into an ork green tide <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ in blood angels you can deep strike redeemers?!?<br /> <br /> I fixed the special weapon crap that i've done (thanks for pointin' that out - multiple times)<br /> <br /> also, i found out you only get 1 plasma in a command squad. any idea, where could i get 3 more?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Aug 2010 19:00:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As in the bits? try ebay/bits stores]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Aug 2010 06:52:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Plasma guns?<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440339a&prodId=prod1400024" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.games-workshop.com/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gws</span>/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440339a&prodId=prod1400024</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Aug 2010 07:41:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ thanks. where do you find bitz stores?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i would say keep the command but i think the assult would benifit a armoured roof above their heads for the safe feeling they can survive a turn or more across the board]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi,<br /> <br /> This is definitely a nice start to an Ultramarines list.  There are a few things you have that aren’t quite kosher though, so I’ll go over them with you.  I’ll also comment on each unit, just in general, to let you know my opinions on them.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>waasssdddd wrote:</cite><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Captain; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>; combi plasma                                            120pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Command squad; 4xplasma gun                                    175pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Razorback                                                                    40pts </div></blockquote><br /> The Captain in this squad is nice, but I would give him 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>’s if you're going to give him a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> at all.  If you go the route of Combi-Plasma, give him either a Relic Blade or Power Fist.  You want the ability to take out most infantry with relative ease, so you want to have a Power Weapon that’ll make it easier for you.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>’s, Relic Blades, Power Fists, and Thunder Hammers help out tremendously this way.<br /> <br /> Your Command Squad, on the other hand, seems a tad over the top on Plasma.  I would consider taking 2 Plasma Guns instead, and give the other 2 Melta’s or Flamers.  Being versatile in this case would help you out more.  Also, if you’re going to equip them with a heavy Shooting artillery, you might want to transport them in a Rhino instead, so now you can shoot a couple of those guns when you’re moving inside the vehicle.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>waasssdddd wrote:</cite><br /> Troop: 10xTac; meltagun; missile                                         175pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: Rhino                                                                          35pts<br /> Troop: 10xTac; plasma gun; plasma cannon                          185pts</div></blockquote><br /> Great start for your Tact Squads, except I’d definitely put some Power Weapons on those Sgt’s.  I’d also try to find the points for another Rhino for that other squad.  And if you have the models for it, try Combat Squading them, and leave the Heavy Weapon in the back, while the Sgt and other Special Weapon moves forward.  This way, you potentially can take advantage of all of your weapons each turn.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>waasssdddd wrote:</cite>Elite: 5xTerminator; 2xLC 3xTH/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>                                      200pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> Crusader; multimelta                                               260pts</div></blockquote><br /> I’m not a fan of taking different weapons with Terminator Assault Squads, but to each their own.  I like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> better b/c they’re much more versatile.  Also, Land Raiders in this size of a game are very expensive to take.  With those points, you can easily max out your Terminators, and then you can have 5 of each weapon type.  But if you insist on playing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>, definitely give it Extra Armor.  There’s nothing more wasteful than having 200 points of Terminators in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> that can’t move due to being Stunned.  It’s worth the 15 points, trust me on this one.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>waasssdddd wrote:</cite><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span>: 10xAssault; Powerfist                                            215pts</div></blockquote><br /> Try to find the points to give them a Flamer and Plasma Pistol.  If you can’t afford the points for both, take the Flamer, since it’s cheaper and you have a better chance of increasing your hits.<br /> <blockquote><div><cite>waasssdddd wrote:</cite><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span>: Predator                                                                     60pts</div></blockquote><br /> You definitely want to put side sponson weapons on this, otherwise, with 1 hit, it can be as useful as a giant paper weight.  25 points will get you <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>’s, which is almost a standard now for Predators, at the very least.<br /> <br /> Hope my advice helps, and good luck!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Now that's good advice!!<br /> <br /> You know, there is a second rhino in the army I just forgot to mension it.<br /> Icould replace the plasma weapons in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> and two plasma guns in the command squad for sponsons (although <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> plasmas are so SHOOTY, and i love'em). <br /> I hate flamers, and paying 15 points to have a beter chance at killing someone prior to an assault (in wich you're gonna wipe'em out anyway) just doesen't seem worth it to me.]]></description>
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