GhostfaceKillah wrote: The idea is to make the game less random, cleaner to play and more about playing ability than army list selection. Much like warmachine.

No seize the initiative.

Terrain now blocks line of sight from the edge. You can see 6 inches in and out. Like 4th. Terrain shall cover around 20% of the area of the board.

Two lists can be taken, you can decide what list to use after seeing your opponents list but before knowing anything else.

The tournament shall be 2,000points. Or if this proves not popular it will be 1,500 but no duplicates can be taken of HQ, fast attack, elite or heavy support.

Front side and rear arc for tanks is done by 90% not corner to corner.

7 turns. No random game length.

Games are 2d. No going up in buildings. You can place them on other floors for convenience but measured from where they would be on the bottom.

Infantry do not block line of sight. Things with a amour value or monstrous creatures are infinitely high.

Terrain now blocks line of sight from the edge. You can see 6 inches in and out. Like 4th. Terrain shall cover around 20% of the area of the board.

I not quite sure I follow what you mean, are you talking about area terrain? ie: I can see a bit into that foreset, but I cant see though it?

Two lists can be taken, you can decide what list to use after seeing your opponents list but before knowing anything else.

Who has to decide first? Are both lists required to use the same codex?

The tournament shall be 2,000points. Or if this proves not popular it will be 1,500 but no duplicates can be taken of HQ, fast attack, elite or heavy support.

No duplicates will break alot some armies (ie: Dark Eldar, Necrons), most people will want redundancy in their lists

7 turns. No random game length.

Thats going to take alot of tactical decisions out of the late game, especially in objective missions.

Games are 2d. No going up in buildings. You can place them on other floors for convenience but measured from where they would be on the bottom.

This could just as easily be solved by not using any multi-level terrain.

Infantry do not block line of sight. Things with a amour value or monstrous creatures are infinitely high.

This basically means that Vehicles/MCs can never at any point get a cover save, except from KFF or similar.

I sorta see what you are doing with some of these, but I'm not entirely sure why.
Changing the rules to make things "clear" often doesnt work, because people essentially have to learn new rules.

All terrain now blocks LoS. Does this include hills, rivers, ponds and other things that you can usually see accross? Is the 6" sight like a band around the terrain or is it subjective to the firer. For example, I am trying to see a model that is one inch from the edge of a forest, but it is 7" away from the edge of the forest that I am closest to, and my line of sight goes no deeper than 6" into the centre forest at any one point, can I see him or not?

If there are no KP, why should I bring an ork or nid list, which lend themsleves to large expensive units, over a MSU space wolf or BA list, which offers the same VP, but allows me greater flexibility?

Infantry do not block LoS in 5th edition, so do you mean that there are no cover saves from shooting through infantry?

Does the 90% arcs for tanks apply only to tanks, or to other vehicles as well? Do you mean when shooting at a tank/vehicle you fire the arc which you can see 90% of? What if I can see 90% of two sides, do I choose which to fire at? What if I can only see 10% of two sides, can I fire at the tank/vehicle at all?

I think what you are suggesting will leave your tournament full of very similar MSU MEQ armies.

A lot of your changes seem arbitary, but that may be because you have given no explaination for them. I can understand the terrain thing to a degree, but TLoS solves a lot of problems about what you can and cant see through. It also makes the game go faster in that you dont have to measure for every individual unit to see if they can see through terrain.

The moving up and down in buildings thing makes no sense to me. You will get a greater standard of play if you give your participants more tactical options. Good players will know when to mov up into buildings to take advantage of the higher position, where as bad players will not. Similarly the removal of random game length makes it much easier for bad players to go for the last turn objective grab, rather than planning for it in advance, which is the mark of a better player.

You also seem to be severely limiting some armies. There is little reason to take nids, orks, necrons, dark eldar, eldar over guard and all of the MEQ factions. Redundancy is essential to some armies, as is the knowledge that they have an advantage in KP missions, even if objective ones are harder.

Kill points are far superior to victory points, for the simple fact that some armies with a lot of small units will run around without sacrficing any more than a massive horde of units. Why take 3 large blobs of orks when i can take 6 small ones?