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				<description><![CDATA[ So i am trying to build the most competitive list possible to take to tournaments that don't have a comp score. Here it is. Let me know what you guys think or what i should change.<br /> <br /> Warboss 115<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, shoota/skorcha ,  cybork body, attack squig <br /> <br /> Big Mek 105 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span>, 'Eavy Armor,<br /> <br /> 20 Boyz 160 <br /> Sluggas <br /> Nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, Bosspole, <br /> <br /> 20 Boyz 160 <br /> sluggas<br /> Nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, Bosspole,<br /> <br /> 20 Boyz 160 <br /> sluggas<br /> Nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, Bosspole,<br /> <br /> 7nobz <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>. big choppa. big choppa, big choppa & shotta rokkit, shoota skorcha & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>, shoota skorcha & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> - all cybork bodys - 470 pt<br /> 1 painboy<br /> Battlewagon 155 <br /> Deff Rolla, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>, 4 Big Shootas. grot riggers, armor plates<br /> <br /> <br /> 1 Deffkopta 70 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits, 1 Buzzsaw <br /> <br /> 1 Deffkopta 70 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits, 1 Buzzsaw <br /> <br /> 1 Deffkopta 70 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits, 1 Buzzsaw <br /> <br /> Battlewagon 130 <br /> Deff Rolla, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,  Big Shootas, armor plates<br /> <br /> Battlewagon 130 <br /> Deff Rolla, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,  Big Shootas. grot riggers, armor plates<br /> <br /> Battlewagon 130 <br /> Deff Rolla, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,  Big Shootas. grot riggers, armor plates<br /> <br /> 1850]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:10:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ acreedon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ you could drop the cybork bodies on the nobz, 3 big shootas off of each of the bw,the red paint jobs and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> and' eavy armour on the bigmek. With that get yourself some kommandos to add an extra dimension for the other player to worry about<br /> <br /> thats just a thought the list looks good to me regardless]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:29:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bigmeklover]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ any other advice? or does this look pretty solid. i want to punish some people.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:14:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ acreedon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Competitive Orks try 1</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Dump the Squig on you boss.<br /> <br /> Big mek should ONLY have the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span>.<br /> <br /> Do ALL slugga boyz.<br /> <br /> Battlewagonz: Deff Rolla, Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, and a big shoota comes out to 130.<br /> <br /> I would suggest lootaz over deffkoptaz at 1850, but thats just me. <br /> <br /> And you nobz cost WAY to much do only like a max of 360 points for 7 nobz total.<br /> Nobz <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> should not cost OVER 420 if they do you are wasting points on them.<br /> <br /> Heres is how I equip my nobs and they usually make their points back.<br /> 1 Painboy w/ 'Eavy Armor, Cybork Body <br /> 6 Nobz w/ 3 Power Klawz, 'Eavy Armor, Cybork Bodiez, Waaagh! Banner, 2 Big Choppaz, Kombi Shoota-Skorcha, Bosspole = 355 <br /> 1 nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, eavy, cybork, waaagh<br /> 1 nob w/ P.K., eavy cybork, bosspole<br /> 1 nob w/ P.K., eavy cybork<br /> 1 nob w/ big choppa, eavy, cybork<br /> 1 nob w/ big choppa, eavy cybork, kombi skorcha<br /> 1 nob w/ eavy cybork.<br /> Other than that solid list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:40:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deff Jaw]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks a bunch man. Im new to making ork lists.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:36:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ acreedon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ the use of both eavy and cybork is a point sink in and of itself use one or the other not both.<br /> <br /> keep the squig the extra attack is a must on a warboss ( he is there to take names after all)<br /> <br /> I disagree with only <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>kff</span> the shoota skorcha alone can help wittle down a squad.<br /> <br /> the speed freek list is built for speed and keeping the other player of balance, lootas will just sit in the back of the field and take pot shots while trying to see around the footprints of four bw (and they are not even scoring units, but neither are the koptas). keep the koptas you will see more use from them<br /> <br /> try to find some points for a 1 runtherder and 9 grots to hold your objective]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:11:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bigmeklover]]></author>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:47:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Competitive Orks try 1</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ One more thing is that it is best to modify your original list instead of posting news ones later on.  People only want/wish to see the first list.<br /> <br /> I still stand firm on the Mek having only the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span>.<br /> <br /> If you are going to run slugga boyz take out ALL heavy weapons.  They are actually a waste of points (ask Dashofpepper if you don't believe me).<br /> <br /> A battlewagon w/ Deff Rolla, RED paint, big shootaz, grot riggers, armor plates.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:07:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deff Jaw]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I run a battle wagon spam list and its awesome as hell.  You NEED the koptas to keep the attention off the wagons for a turn or 2.  Keeping your whole army mobile is a must.  While lootas are great, they don't exactly fit in.  Like Deff said, take the Big shootas off the Slugga boyz.  You will NEVER use them.  <br /> <br /> All in all, awesome list.  Give it a play test or two and you will see what its lacking then go from there.  <br /> <br /> Bad Sheep  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:44:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just a couple notes on the points here.<br /> <br /> The battlewagons you have listed are:<br /> Wagon - 90<br /> Deff Rolla - 20<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span> - 5<br /> Big Shoota - 5<br /> Grot Rigger - 5<br /> Armor Plates - 10<br /> Total: 135 - you're listed 'em as 130.<br /> <br /> Big Mek cannot have the kombi weapon, as he is replacing his slugga/shoota with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span>.<br /> <br /> Is your intention to have one squad of 20 boys on foot? I'm not sure how this'd play out for you.. it's either a really expensive unit to commit to just taking objectives in your deployment zone, or a unit that'll never get to fight. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:56:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ magoud]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ well. i have 190 points left so i wasn't sure how to spend them and i thought would add some more boys. i could add gretchin...<br /> <br /> maybe i could add some boyz in a truck?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ acreedon]]></author>
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