<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/31.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) GW likes to leave things blank on certain topics, to create a sense of mystery and let players make their own fluff, so I guess what I'm asking for is opinions and theories on the legion. Or old fluff. I get the impression they have a small but highly dedicated fanbase who enjoy putting the puzzle together, and I'd like to hear from them in particular. Especially Alpharius, who's hinting and suggestion have lead me inexorably down this path of inquiry... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1857162.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1857162.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
they are a chapter based on deception, with non conventional tactic, alot of people dressed the same with the same equipment. And they all look like their primarch

one of their primarch(or maybe not) got killed by grandpa smurf( guiliman), debated since their chapter base on deception

and according to the novels, they are not against sacrificing 90% of their own force just to show off their strat]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1857211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1857211.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
So... there is a LOT out there, actually, but all of it is, at best, suspect.

Which, happily enough, would suit the Legion just fine!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1857283.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1857283.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) Legion didn't really cut it for me. The only part I really liked about it (apart from some of the imperial army stuff) was that it brought into question the legions' true loyalties. Is that an old or a new piece of fluff?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1857429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1857429.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
Now, they may indeed be "For the Emperor!", only in not quite the way many wold think they should be!

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Alpharius wrote:This is a new spin to the old background, in which previously they would shout "For the Emperor!" in order to confuse their Imperial enemies, most of whom probably had never seen a Space Marine up to that point.

Now, they may indeed be "For the Emperor!", only in not quite the way many wold think they should be!



Alpha Legionaire: "For the Emperor!"
Guardssman: "Uh....For Chaos!" *Sound of Commissar Bolt Pistol Racking* "Balls..."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1859628.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1859628.page GMT Re:Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1864949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1864949.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1864974.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1864974.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865356.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865356.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) KT
the thing about the alpha legion is that their whole schpiel is being mysterious. hence the fluff is very limited.

This is basically their old (pre-legion) fluff, near as I can remember it:

The Alpha Legion was the last to be created and felt like thy had alot to prove. Alpharius was a tactical genius and loved to use stealth and surprise tactics, so they wasted alot of time wiping out the enemy in needlessly complex ways in order to show that they were just as good, even better, than the other legions. When Guiliman called Alpharius on this they got into a fight, hence the Ultramarines and the Alpha Legion hate each others guts. They didnt participate directly in the heresy (at least its central battles) because they were too far away; I dont remember how Horus was able to corrupt them but presumably it was because they felt like they werent getting their dues in the imperium. After the Heresy they did not flee to the eye of terror like the other legions; they continued to fight as a group until eventually they had a showdown with the Ultramarines. The ultramarines invaded their battle barge and Guiliman killed Alpharius in single combat; after which everyone thought the legion would fall to pieces. However their command structure was very resilient and the legion remained coherent and organized, but in small bands operating over widely scattered distances. They hide out in small groups, in secret asteroid bases, in the under-parts of hive-cities, and any other kind of sneaky covert location from which they can disrupt the imperium. They use cultists in order to infiltrate their targets. They dont show up in force very often because it takes them so long to set up their operations, but when they do they achieve total surprise and usually wipe their enemies pretty fast. They don't live in the eye of terror and dont have any special love of gods/demons/mutations etc, rather they use these things as one more kind of tool when they have to, but generally keep their distance.

No one knows their home planet. Their hydra symbol represents their resiliency and ferocity (ie if you cut off one head of a hydra it just grows more, so its really hard to kill the thing). Everyone is named Alpharius. They use cultists alot, really alot. They're like ninjas in space. Basically. And they're very mysterious. Very very mysterious.

The new stuff is kind of weird by comparison. Very conspiratorial, which makes sense I guess...
AF]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865496.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865496.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
Before LEGION, absolutely!

After LEGION, no idea!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865708.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865708.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
In your opinions, what would be the best way to add some true Alpha Legion flavour to a CSM force?
I mean, paintjobs obviously, and no daemons, but would it be in keeping to use a lot of older-mark loyalist armour mixed in with chaos parts? Would purity seals be out of place? (I guess they wouldn't post-Legion, but I think I might be swinging towards a more 2e/3e flavour) I can see the older version of the Legion using purity seals as another way of confusing and confounding loyalists. Really, I made this thread to inspire and direct me on modelling this warband. So visually, and with the army list, what recurring themes should I incorporate? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865917.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865917.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) LATD Apocalypse data sheet (available at the GW website) guard codex, codex eye of terror, etc. They're not exactly tournament legal but as long as you aren't abusing the rules and you have a legit fluffy army people will let you play it. If not just have a 100% legal list written up and play that. Whatever. Their loss.

For modelling.... no mutations or blasphemous runes or anything too chaosy. Just strait up and down marines. Anything dragon-y or scale-y would go well with their fluff. Hydra motifs. Camoflauged armor maybe since they don't really fixate on symbols and heraldry like the other legions do. There have been a couple different color schemes proposed. blue and silver is what you see on lexicanum, though they had this kind of really dark green and silver in the 3.5 chaos codex.

I've never seen someone run an alpha legion army as long as I've been playing it sounds like a fun project.
AF


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About what Alpharius said: yeah Legion pretty much wiped the slate clean for these guys. Their fluff could change alot who knows? They're very mysterious......

oh I think their home planet is Bedok. Remember reading that somewhere. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865980.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1865980.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/305685.page]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866100.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866100.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
We don't know what the hell the Legion is actually doing...and that's just the way they like it.


They're confusing buggers aren't they? Also, to be perfectly honest, it would be easier to play Alpha Legion with the normal SM codex than it would with the CSM codex, since they're so advertant to pretty much everything Chaos stands for . . . ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866240.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866240.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866292.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
croggy wrote:i thought that they were not chaos but more traitors because they were tricked into it? hmm i dunno though its been a while since i read any alpha fluff


They're not Chaos. Also, they are Chaos.

Alpharius is dead. He also isn't dead.

They're trying to destroy the galaxy. They're trying to save the galaxy.

They're basically space terrorists. They're basically the most tragically noble and heroic Space Marines ever.

Plus, they don't exist. Or maybe they do.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866511.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866511.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
Never.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866548.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866548.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866566.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866566.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please) HH novels, for better or for worse ARE the 'official' history.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866984.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1866984.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
Alpharius wrote:Um, the HH novels, for better or for worse ARE the 'official' history.


or are they.................................]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1868796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/312610/1868796.page GMT Tell me EVERYTHING about the Alpha Legion. (please)
croggy wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Um, the HH novels, for better or for worse ARE the 'official' history.


or are they.................................


I see what you did there!

And now... I'm watching you.

We're everywhere, you know...

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